Comments Thread For: Devin Haney joins VADA 24/7/365 program

[BrankoB]

It reminds me of the CBB pay for play stuff. For decades everyone knew that the top players and even many lesser known players were being paid to go to certain schools under the table. It was seen as this incredibly nasty thing and it was ruining the sport, etc etc. Then the NCAA became more and more irrelevant as schools told them to take a flying f--k.

Next thing you knew the portal was created and players were being paid. What had been seen as a terrible injustice became a normal part of the game overnight.

Everyone knows that all guys at the top of combat sports are using weight cutting agents, things that help them hold muscle while cutting weight and to increase their endurance. Some use steroids and other muscle building drugs as well, but alot of muscle is not a huge advantage to a boxer, because bigger muscles don't translate to functional muscle. While there are some benefits to increasing punching power obviously, in reality, bigger muscles don't translate to huge punchers. You have to learn to sit down on a punch and leverage yourself, and commit to a shot. Many fighters don't.
And to put on enough muscle to where your power is greatly enhanced, it would be obvious in the musculature of the athlete.

What will eventually happen is that combat sports will allow all the athletes to use ped's and therefor no one has an advantage. And what most of them will use are drugs to enhance endurance and to help them preserve muscle on a cut. The advantages in power are slight, as more muscle means less functional movement and less advantage in the ring.

Haney is certainly using Conte's techniques for testing clean. It isn't even really that hard with some money, blood doping is incredibly hard to detect. Haney blows up between fights, and it is common knowledge he uses IV's to rehydrate much larger than his opponents on fight night. He was bigger than Ryan when he got beat up yet people act like Ostarine turned Ryan into the Hulk and made him so strong that Haney had no chance. It's laughable. Haney was arrogant and thought he'd bully Garcia and he got caught. Drugs had nothing to do with it. Ryan looked no different than any other fight.

Haney has been a hype driven feather fisted boring huggy fighter since he started. He has boxing skills, but he is mentally a weak fighter and he has a weak chin. His career has been built on garbage. Ryan just caught him.

Eventually we will see regulations gone as far as PEDs. It is an open secret.

Very good explanation for what is going on. I do have one comment to make in relation to - "Ryan looked no different than any other fight". I don't know if you remember but Ryan actually published his photos before Gervonta Davis Fight and before the Haney fight.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Very good explanation for what is going on. I do have one comment to make in relation to - "Ryan looked no different than any other fight". I don't know if you remember but Ryan actually published his photos before Gervonta Davis Fight and before the Haney fight.

Davis drained the hell out of him so Garcia stood no chance. I mean in relation to his other bouts.

[boxingitis]

Of course you can, opinions are what make Forums fun and informative. With that being said, you were implying that Devin is using PEDs, that's a little bit more than an opinion. What is not an opinion is that Devin has yet to test positive for any PEDs, that's a fact. As for Ryan, he did test positive for a PED, that isn't an opinion. Now, I'm of the opinion that Ryan took Ostarine purposely to try and shed those extra pounds that he was having difficulty with. I don't believe he was micro dosing nor do I believe that Devin was battered by Ryan due to Ostarine.

I'm not gonna argue why Ryan tested positive because I don't know, I can speculate but that doesn't prove anything. You think that Ryan didn't take PEDs and he tested positive under su****ious circumstances? Cool, I might feel different but I'm not gonna argue your opinion. What I was pointing out was that there is no proof that Devin is taking PEDs nor is there any proof that Devin and Conte are somehow working with VADA to somehow pass a PED test or to set up Ryan, which is what you were implying...

It's all good bro, I'm not trying to take your thoughts away nor am I trying to disrespect you in any way. I simply stated how I feel based on the facts that are at hand and not on my assumptions...

"If" Devin and Conte working with VADA, Devin will never test Positive. So your telling Ryan was able to NOT get caught Using PEDs through his Training (that proves VADA is useless or Incompetent) or that Ryan used PED a week or a day before the fight.

Conte didn't get caught Cheating until he did. Does that mean he wasn't cheating before he got cought? Less see what the future holds. I have my assumption and you have your assumption. Your assumption is that Conte is no longer a Cheater.

It should be easy, just use another Anti Doping Agency. Haney and Conte prefer VADA for whatever reason. That way there is not assumption that Conte and VADA work together.

If my "opion" had proof it would be a fact.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

"If" Devin and Conte working with VADA, Devin will never test Positive. So your telling Ryan was able to NOT get caught Using PEDs through his Training (that proves VADA is useless or Incompetent) or that Ryan used PED a week or a day before the fight.

Conte didn't get caught Cheating until he did. Does that mean he wasn't cheating before he got cought? Less see what the future holds. I have my assumption and you have your assumption. Your assumption is that Conte is no longer a Cheater.

It should be easy, just use another Anti Doping Agency. Haney and Conte prefer VADA for whatever reason. That way there is not assumption that Conte and VADA work together.

If my "opion" had proof it would be a fact.

"Ifs" don't exist so there's no point in discussing "ifs". I'm of the opinion that Ryan took Ostarine the week before the fight to try and lose the weight that he was struggling to lose, that is why he didn't test positive prior.

I never stated that Conte is cheating or is no longer cheating, I simply questioned whether there was evidence or links proving that Conte is working with VADA. I can't find anything proving that he is, I'm gonna assume that you can't either, otherwise you would have provided the links.

Should they use another anti doping agency?? Sure, I won't argue that. Who would you suggest they use and why?

Opinions can be argued, facts can't or shouldn't be argued so lets stick with facts...

[MulaKO]

I agree! That's one way of keeping the sport PED free, or at least it's a giant step towards it...

Yeah , if your on the right team flask boy lol