Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk open to a second fight with Daniel Dubois

[Oregonian]

Stop making excuses.

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What excuses are you talking about? Did Dubois get KO’d?
YES or NO?
it’s that simple.

[BirdSong]

of course he wants a rematch he dominated the first one dubois wont beat usyk hes not good enough and koing a weak chinned aj changes nothing

[Lance98]

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What excuses are you talking about? Did Dubois get KO’d?
YES or NO?
it’s that simple.

That wasn't the point, dumbo.
Usyk went down in a heap from a clear body shot and was allowed to recover. Usyk has to beat dubois with no controversy or this will forever be brought up. Deal with it, clown. Backing me into a 1-dimensional yes or no question is dumb.

[ODLH Chicano Goat]

Usyk was sprawled out on the canvas looking "very feel" from a legit body shot (IMO) for at least 3 or 4 minutes in their first fight so yeah I don't mind this rematch at all. Dubois deserves it.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I think fury would best josh, so then if fury can beat ddd v parker winner to get usyk that would be great for fury, if fury wants 3rd fight. But fury might have to fight his friend parker?
Usyk v zhang is good. Also I think bakole too, as bakole will look nice on resume

The 'I think Tyson Fury would do this and that, against all of his nearest competition. Is no longer a strong enough statement to make, during this type of debate'.

Once upon a time? In these sort of boxing discussions 'People would enter into a debate, and just claim that Tyson Fury head to head was one of the most formidable heavyweight fighters of all-times. And Due to the media propaganda machine in boxing, which created many narratives to boast Tyson Fury's abilities. Certain individuals within the boxing community, struggled to compete or counter attack such view points'.

I have never been one of those individuals, and I have always maintained that Tyson Fury's abilities have been vastly overrated 'Fury no doubt, is a great fighter. But we have just witnessed him lose his last three fights, two of those fights have been against Oleksandr Uysk who stylistically should of been a much more straight forward fight for Tyson Fury. If he was a true all-time great Super Heavyweight fighter'.

Anthony Joshua will not be the favourite to beat Tyson Fury 'But that perspective, will mainly be influenced by people who don't understand boxing on a in-depth level technically i.e Casual sports fans trying their best to estimate future performances, and people who like to involve themselves in activities such as sports betting. Those are the only people who really are going to back Fury to win.

Because Fury's hardcore fans themselves will be extremely apprehensive, which we can already detect right now as we speak 'I don't think Tyson Fury his team, and hardcore fans want Fury to fight Joshua. Because they are very aware that stylistically, Anthony Joshua has always been a extremely difficult fight for Fury. If Tyson Fury is being backed up, and pushed around the ring by Oleksandr Uysk I & II who he outweighed by 40 pounds at the very least, 50 + pounds in their rematch.

We can only imagine how Tyson Fury will behave vs Anthony Joshua, who is not only one of the most component and proven pure boxers in the Heavyweight division 'Anthony Joshua also has one of the most proven, brutal and devastating offensive capabilities in the Divisions still at this stage in his career'. Joshua has the ability to beat Fury, in manner which Uysk struggled to produce. At best Oleksandr Uysk's style is about winning via accumulating points, and limiting the frequency of unforced errors and technical mistakes that he commits. This combined with his supreme level of endurance, is how he is beating these modern day super heavyweight fighters.

Note: I am very serious when make this statement 'Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury, is a higher level danger fight. For Tyson Fury, than Oleksandr Uysk I & II. Because Anthony Joshua's best attributes and his style, creates a totally different level of competitive warfare for Tyson Fury. Fury would not have encountered this level of danger and peril since fighting Deontay Wilder. But against Joshua? In my opinion the level of danger and peril round by round, is even higher. Because Anthony Joshua is also a proven skill for skill great boxer, and the gap between Fury's and Joshua's skill for skill boxing? There may not even be that much of a difference. The 48 rounds in which they both competed against Oleksandr Uysk I & II, proves this beyond doubt. And if people need more evidence, then go and have a look at all the common opponent's that Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua have fought'.

Anthony Joshua has been able to beat Wladimir Kiltschko, Otto Wallin, and Francis Ngannou 'All more conclusively then Tyson Fury. Those are the objective facts'.

I will almost guarantee you that, many active fighters and current boxer coaches will all back Joshua to beat Tyson Fury and by knock-out. Oleksandr Uysk himself quite recently has already stated, that he believes Anthony Joshua would beat Tyson Fury.

But regardless of those views, Tyson Fury should be the favourite to win 'Fury has lost his last three fights, and Oleksandr Uysk is a higher level opponent than Daniel Dubois'.

To conclude: But like I stated awhile back in one of my posts 'I am not that optimistic on the prospect of Tyson Fury wanting to fight Anthony Joshua. If the fight does not happen, I am almost 90% sure that it will be down to Tyson Fury and his team backing out of the fight 'Fury throughout his entire career, has only ever taken on big challenges when he really had to. Most of his resume outside of Wladimir Kiltschko, Deontay Wilder and then eventually Oleksandr Uysk, consist of domestic to European level fights'.

Therefore I would be very surprised if Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury happens next 'Not because of Joshua, but because of Fury's history when it comes to consistency fighting at top level'.

I honestly believe that Anthony Joshua and his team, need to real soon 'Get another big fight in the works. By not taking the immediate rematch vs Daniel Dubois that was a tactical mistake, but? Maybe fights vs Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang are his next two best fights' etc.

[hugh grant]

The 'I think Tyson Fury would do this and that, against all of his nearest competition. Is no longer a strong enough statement to make, during this type of debate'.

Once upon a time? In these sort of boxing discussions 'People would enter into a debate, and just claim that Tyson Fury head to head was one of the most formidable heavyweight fighters of all-times. And Due to the media propaganda machine in boxing, which created many narratives to boast Tyson Fury's abilities. Certain individuals within the boxing community, struggled to compete or counter attack such view points'.

I have never been one of those individuals, and I have always maintained that Tyson Fury's abilities have been vastly overrated 'Fury no doubt, is a great fighter. But we have just witnessed him lose his last three fights, two of those fights have been against Oleksandr Uysk who stylistically should of been a much more straight forward fight for Tyson Fury. If he was a true all-time great Super Heavyweight fighter'.

Anthony Joshua will not be the favourite to beat Tyson Fury 'But that perspective, will mainly be influenced by people who don't understand boxing on a in-depth level technically i.e Casual sports fans trying their best to estimate future performances, and people who like to involve themselves in activities such as sports betting. Those are the only people who really are going to back Fury to win.

Because Fury's hardcore fans themselves will be extremely apprehensive, which we can already detect right now as we speak 'I don't think Tyson Fury his team, and hardcore fans want Fury to fight Joshua. Because they are very aware that stylistically, Anthony Joshua has always been a extremely difficult fight for Fury. If Tyson Fury is being backed up, and pushed around the ring by Oleksandr Uysk I & II who he outweighed by 40 pounds at the very least, 50 + pounds in their rematch.

We can only imagine how Tyson Fury will behave vs Anthony Joshua, who is not only one of the most component and proven pure boxers in the Heavyweight division 'Anthony Joshua also has one of the most proven, brutal and devastating offensive capabilities in the Divisions still at this stage in his career'. Joshua has the ability to beat Fury, in manner which Uysk struggled to produce. At best Oleksandr Uysk's style is about winning via accumulating points, and limiting the frequency of unforced errors and technical mistakes that he commits. This combined with his supreme level of endurance, is how he is beating these modern day super heavyweight fighters.

Note: I am very serious when make this statement 'Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury, is a higher level danger fight. For Tyson Fury, than Oleksandr Uysk I & II. Because Anthony Joshua's best attributes and his style, creates a totally different level of competitive warfare for Tyson Fury. Fury would not have encountered this level of danger and peril since fighting Deontay Wilder. But against Joshua? In my opinion the level of danger and peril round by round, is even higher. Because Anthony Joshua is also a proven skill for skill great boxer, and the gap between Fury's and Joshua's skill for skill boxing? There may not even be that much of a difference. The 48 rounds in which they both competed against Oleksandr Uysk I & II, proves this beyond doubt. And if people need more evidence, then go and have a look at all the common opponent's that Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua have fought'.

Anthony Joshua has been able to beat Wladimir Kiltschko, Otto Wallin, and Francis Ngannou 'All more conclusively then Tyson Fury. Those are the objective facts'.

I will almost guarantee you that, many active fighters and current boxer coaches will all back Joshua to beat Tyson Fury and by knock-out. Oleksandr Uysk himself quite recently has already stated, that he believes Anthony Joshua would beat Tyson Fury.

But regardless of those views, Tyson Fury should be the favourite to win 'Fury has lost his last three fights, and Oleksandr Uysk is a higher level opponent than Daniel Dubois'.

To conclude: But like I stated awhile back in one of my posts 'I am not that optimistic on the prospect of Tyson Fury wanting to fight Anthony Joshua. If the fight does not happen, I am almost 90% sure that it will be down to Tyson Fury and his team backing out of the fight 'Fury throughout his entire career, has only ever taken on big challenges when he really had to. Most of his resume outside of Wladimir Kiltschko, Deontay Wilder and then eventually Oleksandr Uysk, consist of domestic to European level fights'.

Therefore I would be very surprised if Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury happens next 'Not because of Joshua, but because of Fury's history when it comes to consistency fighting at top level'.

I honestly believe that Anthony Joshua and his team, need to real soon 'Get another big fight in the works. By not taking the immediate rematch vs Daniel Dubois that was a tactical mistake, but? Maybe fights vs Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang are his next two best fights' etc.

You actually have convinced me Josh will beat Fury. I said Fury likely beats Josh only because Josh would be coming off a fight having been koed by DDD. But Josh was favourite for that and maybe underestimated DDD a bit. But come to think of it i can say Josh will beat Fury. Or its a 50-50. You pays your money you takes your pick.
Im not too sure Fury wants Josh too, you have to take what Fury says with a pinch of salt.

[Oregonian]

That wasn't the point, dumbo.
Usyk went down in a heap from a clear body shot and was allowed to recover. Usyk has to beat dubois with no controversy or this will forever be brought up. Deal with it, clown. Backing me into a 1-dimensional yes or no question is dumb.

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You are such an anus of a warthog, it’s unbelievable.

“Allowed to recover” what a crock of shït!!

Why didn’t Dubois finish him off? He had all the advantage and according to you, he was prolly winning the fight until he got KO’d. Amiright?

Some one dimensional asswipe! lol

[pollywog]

Dubois did nothing to earn a shot at Usyk in the first place and got his belt emailed to him after headbutting Hrgovic into submission. Sure, he splattered Joshua, but most would these days.

Parker earnt a shot at Usyk more then Dubois did and after he takes Doobie to those deep waters where he drowns in uncertainty, Usyk will hopefully want the challenge that being twice undisputed while beating Parker brings.