Comments Thread For: BoxingScene Round Table: Takeaway From Estrada-Rodriguez

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Jesse Rodriguez's KO of Juan Francisco Estrada felt like a passing of the torch, but was that their meeting's most resonant subtext? We asked our BoxingScene staff to highlight their key takeaway from Saturday's superfight.
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[ClearwaterDave]

Good read! Bam is "Badass as fook"!

[crimsonfalcon07]

I'm surprised nobody wanted to mention Ioka, or fellow 4 division titlist Kosei Tanaka as possible opponents for Bam. Are the writers assuming Martinez will walk all over Ioka in their unification?

[Greenfield02]

If this guy is not at least top five P4P I don't know what you're looking for, and this dude is 24, 24, at that young age he already has more signature wins than some that are in their 30s and are considered the "Best" P4P...

[TheOneAboveAll]

If this guy is not at least top five P4P I don't know what you're looking for, and this dude is 24, 24, at that young age he already has more signature wins than some that are in their 30s and are considered the "Best" P4P...

Bam Rodriguez certainly deserves strong consideration to be on the P4P list, but he remains at the very back end of it for now. There is no doubt that Bam is the dominant force from 112-115lbs, but much of his claim to fame has been earned beating great old guys up to now (mid-30s for a super-flyweight is like a 40 yr old WW). Bam's got great names on his resume at just 24 yrs old, but the full context of his competition matters when judging his place among the P4P best. Boxingscene currently has him in the #10 spot which I think is fair. He moves up the list when he moves up and beats Junto Nakatani at 118lbs.

[pnut901]

Bam is a beast. Truly a great fighter already. As long as he keeps his head on straight, there's an incredible career ahead of him. It's going to be interesting to see how it goes through the years.

[ShoulderRoll]

That’s the exciting thing, seeing how much better Bam can get since he is still so young. As long as he keeps working hard and keeps learning and improving then the sky is the limit.

[Greenfield02]

Bam Rodriguez certainly deserves strong consideration to be on the P4P list, but he remains at the very back end of it for now. There is no doubt that Bam is the dominant force from 112-115lbs, but much of his claim to fame has been earned beating great old guys up to now (mid-30s for a super-flyweight is like a 40 yr old WW). Bam's got great names on his resume at just 24 yrs old, but the full context of his competition matters when judging his place among the P4P best. Boxingscene currently has him in the #10 spot which I think is fair. He moves up the list when he moves up and beats Junto Nakatani at 118lbs.

And who has Crawford exactly beat to be considered better? Picking up paper titles to become unified champ doesn't do it...

[TheOneAboveAll]

And who has Crawford exactly beat to be considered better? Picking up paper titles to become unified champ doesn't do it...

Picking up 'paper titles' to become unified champion? What are you talking about? Crawford beat the best guys in 3 divisions and was fully undisputed in two. Who didn't he fight that has you calling him a paper champion? I like Bam Rodriguez and he deserves all the attention he's getting but you are glazing over some important context if you believe that Bam's achievements thus far eclipse Bud's. Bam has had an incredible last 2 years beating 3/4 of LAST DECADES Flyweight Fab 4. If he beat the 2013-14 versions of those guys, then we would be talking about a real legend at the top of the P4P list, but we are not talking about that. Crawford beating Spence, Porter, Brook, Khan, Postol, Gamboa, etc (not aged out versions of them either) is substantially more creditable than Rodriguez beating three old and inactive former greats. Bam deserves credit for also picking apart a very talented Sunny Edwards, but then again, Edwards cannot crack eggs. Let's see what Bam does against a killer in his prime. Junto Nakatani is waiting.

[daggum]

Bam Rodriguez certainly deserves strong consideration to be on the P4P list, but he remains at the very back end of it for now. There is no doubt that Bam is the dominant force from 112-115lbs, but much of his claim to fame has been earned beating great old guys up to now (mid-30s for a super-flyweight is like a 40 yr old WW). Bam's got great names on his resume at just 24 yrs old, but the full context of his competition matters when judging his place among the P4P best. Boxingscene currently has him in the #10 spot which I think is fair. He moves up the list when he moves up and beats Junto Nakatani at 118lbs.

canelo was p4p #1 after beating 35 year old cotto and 36 year old ggg in dubious fashion. #10 for bam though.