Comments Thread For: Bill Haney Calls for Ryan Garcia to Be Hit With Lifetime Ban From Boxing

[cmwiza]

Give him a 5 year sociak media ban and a 1 year ban from boxing. Hit him where it hurts.

I will even throw in a box of razor blades out of my own pocket.

[Travalav]

This is absurd:

They tried to Stop the Fight, because his mental health; it didn't work

The Ref clearly slow counted each knock down to save Haney: we all saw it

The took points from Garcia, we saw that too

Now after he Wins! They find a Banned Substance!

Sounds All Fishy to me...

There should be an investigation into this entire boxing Contract & Match, including the Entire Haney Staff, Ref, Promotion Team, Boxing Association, & The Banned Substance Administration!!!

They are trying to Cheat this Kid huge because he is Just Clearly Different...

[crisantonio917]

Garcia is a switch hitting, cheating, POS and NY should give him a 2 year ban and a huge fine

[Airborne]

Banned for life? Bill Haney talked so much crap before the fight now he's crying like a baby! His son gets knocked down twice (should have been a least five) and that miniscule amont wouldn't have made that much a difference in that beat down! There won't a rematch because they're scared the result will be the same!

[HandsofIron]

Ryan should be banned but I doubt anything serious will happen.

Hell, big baby Jarrell Miller is like half-man, half-steroids, failed idk, what was it like 4 or 5 tests, nobody gave a shiet and he's still able compete (rumored fight with Ruiz).

[Nash out]

Stop whining. He won the fight fair and clean. He has been set up, and it is just part of a boxing storyline. It will develop with Garcia clearing his name, being declared the Goat, then starting his own boxing league which takes over the world. Props to King Ry. Nash out

[Willie Pep 229]

Banned for life? Bill Haney talked so much crap before the fight now he's crying like a baby! His son gets knocked down twice (should have been a least five) and that miniscule amont wouldn't have made that much a difference in that beat down! There won't a rematch because they're scared the result will be the same!

But, but Garcia "made a mockery of the sport."

Imagine that, someone diminishing the integrity of prize fighting.

To be honest, I didn't think it could be done. When your sport already has a reputation for being lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut, it's pretty hard to bring it into further ill repute.

I feel certain if we ban Garcia for life everything will get better and boxing will become pure.

The reality is, prize fighting is not some WBL (World Boxing League) with league oversight, fairness. All that crap doesn't exist.

Boxers are entrepreneurs; you take a fight, you refuse a fight. If you think the guy is cheating walk away.

What you don't do is try to play both opportunities: You don't, fight, lose, and then complain.

Haney could have taken his 'walk away' money when Garcia didn't make weight. That in itself was a serious red flag that there was 'gamemanship' afoot.

But I am sure daddy wanted the purse more than the walk away money; i.e. he cared more about the purse than his kid being at a disadvantage.

If Haney and daddy want million dollar purses Haney needs to win fights regardless of his opponent being juiced.

(There's Garcia's cheating and then there's Barry Bonds. Two different animals.)

But the simple rule is: you don't like the situation, walk away from it; don't fight, (then lose, and then complain.)

Don't howl "unfair" after you lose. It's disingenuous.

[Smash]

the weird thing about being busted for peds is that if u like the fighter hes been setup contamination fake bad luck levels were not enough to help the hair test was clear blah blah always the same stuff, but if u dont like the guys, its ban the scumbag, ban him for life, throw the book at him, i knew it, look at his body its not right, lol

rinse and repeat

[billeau2]

Check the other thread out with the documentry in it


Something really stinks of rat about this especially Devins younger brother not being able to contain himself and ssying that allah came to him and told him ryan was going to pop dirty like 10 days before anyone else knew
Its obvious the young guy overheard a "plan" and just couldnt contain himself

Also al you guys should check out this video hes a steroid specialist and hes basically clearing ryan of willingly cheating and is certain its contamination...this guy is well respected in that field

That's a very good source. And he makes a point that should be part of the logic not necessarily if we're rendering a legal decision, but logic, which is: Ryan excreted an amount that was hardly performance enhancing.

I personally believe one of the short comings of our species is our inability to reconcile something like logic and legal matters. The law to function it has to be uncompromising, even if motive is really not logical.

It's patently illogical to assume Ryan got any great measure of performance and capability from the small amount he took according to this video. Unfortunately the legal thresholds are different.

My own opinion hopefully this will be considered as part of the legal decision and punishment. It does make one consider the possibility of a taint and supplements are otherwise.

Obviously we can't discount the findings of the test hopefully we can consider all alternatives when decisions are rendered.

[billeau2]

the weird thing about being busted for peds is that if u like the fighter hes been setup contamination fake bad luck levels were not enough to help the hair test was clear blah blah always the same stuff, but if u dont like the guys, its ban the scumbag, ban him for life, throw the book at him, i knew it, look at his body its not right, lol

rinse and repeat

The law and thresholds are designed to eliminate those variables. In order to do that we have to also eliminate other possibilities which may be relevant. That's just the way things are though. If I set a threshold and someone has more than the threshold in their system that has to be their responsibility.

What they can do is consider what a reasonable person would do if they wanted to enhance and if you do this one finds this choice Ryan made to be dubious at best lol. To be clear it doesn't mean he didn't make that choice however, if someone can establish some other motive with proof we can at least consider how dubious this choice is.