Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: The Fallout From Usyk vs Fury

[Jab jab boom]

I will say Hoyfield, because he is black.

Breadman.

Yeah. I’m sure it’s because he’s black and not because he holds 2 wins over tyson, a win over Bowe, foreman, Holmes, Mercer, Rahman and arguably deserved the rematch over Lewis. In comparison to wins over an overrated hype job in AJ and then fury who was coming off a very questionable win while being dropped against a novice with 0 pro fights.

[pollywog]

You had me til the 'AJ has competitive heart and wants all the smoke' bit...

... then i lol'd and stopped reading.

[JULESLUPOWITZ]

Usyk vs Crawford vs Inoue: Impossible to isolate who’s best. 3 number 1 fighters of their class with incomparable, differentiated history. With this piece being on Usyk: He annihilated the CW division with no detectable struggle. He could’ve gone HW then but his team; likely he also had a plan. He appeared to struggle with his 3 HW trials he beat. He could’ve hurt each test much worse or probably KO them if that was his goal. That was likely planned exertion in battle. Which, being much more difficult than letting go, displayed much more abilities as a professional athlete. That strategy, to just get by (an) opponent(s), purposefully, rather than pummeling them is not new. Many great champs accomplish title shots solely because they looked beatable. Then, during Joshua Usyk, as Usyk took a strong lead I noticed Usyk’s corner in some intense advising towards later rounds. I have no proof but might they’ve acted to control or settle an exited Usyk to target his big picture? If he KO’d Joshua, Fury would’ve ran even more… Their 2nd fight looked less dangerous as Joshua did better but the bigger target was always Fury. When that chance finally arrived after more of Fury’s squirming to duck him, Usyk let er go. But Fury, the 2nd best HW behind Usyk for a long period of ducking, loudmouthing & profiting on basic tomato cans decided to actually train well. In trying to beat Usyk, Fury performed his best. Ever…. It’ll be hard to KO Fury if a rematch occurs. But if anyone knows that knocking that giant down verses knocking him out completely are 2 non identical results, Usyk understands that. If that’s accomplished that Ukrainian takes top P4P. And Fury will become a Fairy.

[BillyBoxing]

Yeah. I’m sure it’s because he’s black and not because he holds 2 wins over tyson, a win over Bowe, foreman, Holmes, Mercer, Rahman and arguably deserved the rematch over Lewis. In comparison to wins over an overrated hype job in AJ and then fury who was coming off a very questionable win while being dropped against a novice with 0 pro fights.

Foreman and Holmes were very old in the 90s. Tyson post jail never came back to his prime.

The 2 only elite and in their prime HW that Holyfield met, Bowe and Lewis, his a'ss lost twice.

You call AJ a hype job, but AJ would not let Golota beat the sht outta him like Bowe did twice.

Not hating but those HW of this era, were far from being unbeatable themselves too.

Lewis lost to McCall and Rahman, Tyson to Douglas...

It's easy to bash AJ because he lost to Ruiz and Usyk.

[The D3vil]

Bradman will never throw Crawford off his pfp perch, when ever their is debate over the top position, he always sits on the fence and talks about 1a , 1b, and 1c nonsense.

Plenty of people think Crawford is the best fighter in the world, even other fighters.

[The D3vil]

Foreman and Holmes were very old in the 90s. Tyson post jail never came back to his prime.

The 2 only elite and in their prime HW that Holyfield met, Bowe and Lewis, his a'ss lost twice.

You call AJ a hype job, but AJ would not let Golota beat the sht outta him like Bowe did twice.

Not hating but those HW of this era, were far from being unbeatable themselves too.

Lewis lost to McCall and Rahman, Tyson to Douglas...

It's easy to bash AJ because he lost to Ruiz and Usyk.

Rid**** Bowe wouldn't let a morbidly obese Mexican like Andy Ruiz completely dog walk him and then run from him in the rematch.

Edit: You can't type Rid**** on this sight?

[Mark Elding]

Ok. I don't know if judges are allowed to do that. I know they are allowed to give a 10-8 even if the ref didn't call a knockdown. But a 10-7 after only one knockdown call? I don't know.

If judges are permitted to call a round 10-8 with no knockdown then calling a round 10-7 with one knockdown should also be permissible. It’s a 10 point must system so I don’t understand the reluctance to make more ******* use of those 10 points. If it defies convention, well maybe the convention is wrong.

[hugh grant]

Inoue is no1. He win titles in couple more.divisions. Fury is bigger than usyk, but there comes a point when size is a liability. Usyk at 6 ft 3 isn't small.
Bud is no3 or no4pfp. Weren't brook making bud look ordinary? Good job bud has a punch in him

[Jab jab boom]

Foreman and Holmes were very old in the 90s. Tyson post jail never came back to his prime.

The 2 only elite and in their prime HW that Holyfield met, Bowe and Lewis, his a'ss lost twice.

You call AJ a hype job, but AJ would not let Golota beat the sht outta him like Bowe did twice.

Not hating but those HW of this era, were far from being unbeatable themselves too.

Lewis lost to McCall and Rahman, Tyson to Douglas...

It's easy to bash AJ because he lost to Ruiz and Usyk.

It’s easy to bash AJ because he truly is overrated and more of a product of British popularity than anything else. He’s in a weak heavyweight era and has underwhelmed against Usyk twice and Euiz and hasn’t even shared the ring with the only other two heavyweights that have mattered during his era which are fury and wilder. His highlights are a life and death war with a more past prime Klitchko than the versions of Holmes and foreman than you mentioned and Charles Martin.

[Poopdick]

Yeah. I’m sure it’s because he’s black and not because he holds 2 wins over tyson, a win over Bowe, foreman, Holmes, Mercer, Rahman and arguably deserved the rematch over Lewis. In comparison to wins over an overrated hype job in AJ and then fury who was coming off a very questionable win while being dropped against a novice with 0 pro fights.

lol I was just getting the first 'bread is a racist' comment in. they the best 2. there ain't no such thing as best ever anything imo.