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    #11
    Originally posted by pollywog View Post
    Based off those pics i got Usyk and Breidis winning.

    Fury's pride looks like its heading for a fall and Jai looks underdone.
    You're picking against Jai. That's bold.

    Breidis is an excellent fighter, but I think he's past it. Jai is just getting going. The young lion stops the old lion in this one.

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      #12
      I disagree with the notion that Tyson Fury's optimal performance weight is in the 260's 'Fury has spent most of his career, not really consistent with his training to the same degree as Usyk and Joshua'.

      This training lifestyle over a long duration of time, has had negative effect upon Fury's perception of his own abilities 'Fury quite simply is not aware perceptually what his best condition is from experienced'.

      There was a body builder called Dorian Yates 'Yates won the Mr Olympia title 6 times consecutive times during the early 90's. Which is highly regarded as one of the greatest ever era's of body building, with the clash between mass and classically styled physique body builders'.

      From the very beginning Dorian Yates career he kept a training log of all of his workouts. Yates documented his training in detail, and would use this information as a reference point.

      Yates if he wanted to bring back a specific condition, he could look back in his training log and duplicate workouts from the past 'Subject his being to the same stimulus and acute stress to create a biological, physical, and psycho spiritual reaction'.

      Tyson Fury and his team seem to equate, dropping masses of weight as being in condition 'No top athlete in a primarily performance based sport, correlates dropping masses of weight with being a better athlete'.

      You will only really come across this type of talk in the boxing community 'And also with people who don't really have much knowledge of sports outside of the so called mainstreamed sports such as Soccer, Basketball, NFL'.

      In all top level performance based sports, Athletes primarily above everything else 'Value performance and the biomarkers of fitness above body composition and a number on the scales'.

      David Haye whenever he was asked 'What are you going to weigh in at Heavyweight?' David Haye and Adam Booth would respond by saying 'Our primarily objective is endure and complete a top level training camp and hit all targets. Whatever weight Haye will mold his physique into, then that will be his weight'.

      Tyson Fury has never beat any top level Heavyweight while weighing in at 260 + pounds, they are the facts of is career. 'Fury's win vs Chisora II is most likely his best performance while weighing in at 260+ pounds, but? Is Derek Chisora unbeatable? Lets get this right, David Haye while weighing in at 210 pounds has the best most impressive win over Derek Chisora'.

      David Haye was the first Heavyweight to fight Chisora head on, force vs force and cancel out Chisora's momentum 'Tyson Fury tried to fight Chisora in this manner in their first fight, and ****** about in a competitive fight'.

      Note: I stated in the aftermath of Ngannou vs Fury, and from the very moment Fury vs Usyk was announced. That Tyson Fury and his team appear to be attempting to brig back some sort of hybrid version of the Riddler 'They are attempting to bring back a version of Fury, that we have not seen for almost 9 years'.

      I personally did not agree with those tactics, because contrary to certain narratives 'Tyson Fury was in fight condition vs Francis Ngannou. If Fury was not in condition, he would not of been able to get up off the deck and then fight his way back into the fight. Fury's endurance in that fight also appeared to be superior to Ngannou'.

      If Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury would of been a 12 round fight 'Fury most likely would of really pushed Ngannou in those Championship rounds'.

      Tyson Fury of course is not in terrible condition for Oleksandr Uysk 'Fury has clearly put in a extreme effort. But I have always stated that Fury ether wins of loses this fight in training camp and it will not be due to lack of effort, but because of lack of experienced and not choosing the optimal tactics'.

      Regardless, I will give Tyson Fury a serious chance of wining the fight. Tyson Fury's clutch game has been proven to a high level, he has almost always won all of his biggest fights. I am anticipating a serious effort from Tyson Fury, and if Fury is being out boxed skill for skill by Oleksandr Uysk? I don't think that Fury will have any issue with throwing caution to the wind, and through extreme determination attempting to find a way to win.

      I have already stated in other posts that, I can envision a twist in the action of this fight 'The closer we have got to the fight. I can envision a fight where Oleksandr Uysk pressure's Tyson Fury, in a more aggressive manner than he did with Anthony Joshua'.

      Whatever fighter wins the fight, they deserve to win 'Is it going to come down to skill, or will it come down to who sacrifices more in the ring?'.

      This is the first Undisputed World Heavyweight title fight for 25 years 'For me there is maybe too much on the line, for this fight to be a 100% skill for skill boxing fight for 12 rounds. I don't think any of these fighters can just sit back and believe that they are out scoring their opponent in a violence game of tick. There may be a twist in the action at some point in a serious way' etc.




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        #13
        Originally posted by Quercusalba View Post

        You're picking against Jai. That's bold.

        Breidis is an excellent fighter, but I think he's past it. Jai is just getting going. The young lion stops the old lion in this one.
        My heart says Jai but my head says Breidis.
        Quercusalba Quercusalba likes this.

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