Comments Thread For: Paulie Malignaggi on Ryan Garcia's Positive: 'Boxing's the Dirtiest of All Sports'

[TheProudLunatic]

Don't think you quite understand what the contents of the link you just posted is.

Ive posted it many times with on one willing to debate it.

[IronDanHamza]

You can't have it both ways.
Witch hunters stay on the sidelines waiting for positive results.
Even though what happened IN THE RING showed no evidence of roid usage.
Usually, the fight goes the distance and the roider wins (unless his opp was a bum).

I deal with facts, not speculations.
We won't live long enough to see a roider merk his opp.

What do you mean, you can't have it both ways? What two ways are you referring to?

Well, firstly just because someone doesn't test positive doesn't mean they aren't taking PED's.

Secondly, like previously stated, if your argument is a human being has the capability of killing a man without synthetic assistance, what do you think the capabilities are of someone that is? When we we know demonstrably how drastically PED's effect physical performance?

[TheProudLunatic]

What do you mean, you can't have it both ways? What two ways are you referring to?

Well, firstly just because someone doesn't test positive doesn't mean they aren't taking PED's.

Secondly, like previously stated, if your argument is a human being has the capability of killing a man without synthetic assistance, what do you think the capabilities are of someone that is? When we we know demonstrably how drastically PED's effect physical performance?

Doubting the info to suit your agenda.
And then when your agenda is met, those facts are concrete ?!?!?

Pick one.

We have witness enough roided fights to know
The odds of a boxer never waking up is more likely vs a clean boxer.

Fact

[IronDanHamza]

Doubting the info to suit your agenda.
And then when your agenda is met, those facts are concrete ?!?!?

Pick one.

I think you are confused.

Doubting what info?

What facts are you saying I have claimed are concrete?

We have witness enough roided fights to know
The odds of a boxer never waking up is more likely vs a clean boxer.

Fact

That's actually not a fact. It's the literal opposite of a fact.

It's substantially less likely. Like previously stated, we know demonstrably how drastically PED's effect physical performance in every category.

Your argument is the equivalent to saying fighters fighting without loaded gloves are more likely to kill a fighter than someone who is fighting with loaded gloves because no one with loaded gloves has ever killed a fighter in the ring.

It's an absolutely absurd argument.

[TheProudLunatic]

It's an absolutely absurd argument.

Prove me wrong !

[IronDanHamza]

Prove me wrong !

Prove you wrong about what?

[TheProudLunatic]

Prove you wrong about what?

Roids being harmful to an opp on fight night.

Don't give me ''well it wouldn't be banned if it weren't harmful'' guff.
That's pure strawman.
Defend your POV

[IronDanHamza]

Roids being harmful to an opp on fight night.

Don't give me ''well it wouldn't be banned if it weren't harmful'' guff.
That's pure strawman.
Defend your POV

You are asking me, why PED's, are potentially harmful to an opponent on fight night?

Is that a serious question?

Are you of the opinion that loaded gloves are not harmful to opponents on fight night also?

[TheProudLunatic]

You are asking me, why PED's, are potentially harmful to an opponent on fight night?

Is that a serious question?

Are you of the opinion that loaded gloves are not harmful to opponents on fight night also?

Defend your stance without asking questions

Good luck

[IronDanHamza]

Defend your stance without asking questions

Good luck

Why? Are you not capable of answering simple questions? I have answered all of yours.

I have already defended that stance, if you can call it "defending". It is a literal, objective fact that PED's drastically enhance physical performance in athletes. We know this from decades of literature. So, the simple fact that your argument is unassisted athletes have the capability of killing a human being in a boxing ring actually disproves your point, ironically.

Are you of the opinion that loaded gloves are not harmful to opponents on fight night also? After all, there has never been a death in the ring by a fighter who's used loaded gloves or any kind of glove tampering. So, it's safer for fighters to load their gloves as opposed to not, right?