Comments Thread For: Devin Haney: 'I Will Be Back, I Fought Like A True Champion'

[Line305b]

I think Haney wins the rematch. They will prepare, and learn to deal with that punch. Similar to Joshua/Ruiz.

[factsarenice]

Yes indeed you did and will. He has heart. Cryan didnt try to make weight, came in heavy as hell and still fought like a amateur. The question is that can that version of Garcia beat any to 10 welter?

Garcia looked fat, like he could lose a few pounds and still make weight, Haney on the other hand was about as lean and small as he could get.

In one year Haney isn't making 140lbs so you really need to ask yourself, can that version of Haney beat any top 10 welterweight?

[BustedKnuckles]

Yes.
Time to suggest that even at 25 and with a disciplined work ethic, some are not yet men. In other words, use this humbling experience to grow up as a fighter and as a man. Manny Pacquiao never behaved this way, and since you believe you are also on the path to greatness, why do you think you have to act like a thug? Where's Bill Haney in all of this, anyway? I wouldn't want my son to be a schmuck.

Cmon. If Devin is a schmuck it's exactly because Bill is. It's like the Lopez fam tree. I'm not trying to assisinate people here, but that's the raw truth.

For now, he/they have a lot to work on. His limited chin and power took him this far. But ever since Linares we knew somebody with pop could get the ko/kd. But as we watched shakur and others dannce around the ring and win, we wondered if/when it would ever happen.

I like this win as a redemption, similar to AJ v Ngannou.

[factsarenice]

I think Haney wins the rematch. They will prepare, and learn to deal with that punch. Similar to Joshua/Ruiz.

Why? There is no rematch clause. A rematch for Ryan makes about as much sense as Haney re-matching Lomachanko, the risk is too high. The only way I see a re-match happening is if Oscar can't arrange a better more lucrative fight and I doubt if that's going to be a problem.

[factsarenice]

Cmon. If Devin is a schmuck it's exactly because Bill is. It's like the Lopez fam tree. I'm not trying to assisinate people here, but that's the raw truth.

For now, he/they have a lot to work on. His limited chin and power took him this far. But ever since Linares we knew somebody with pop could get the ko/kd. But as we watched shakur and others dannce around the ring and win, we wondered if/when it would ever happen.

I like this win as a redemption, similar to AJ v Ngannou.

The problem for Devin is that he can't shrink down as easy and at the higher weights his reach is nullified, contact is inevitable and he has no punch resistance.

[Tonyu]

It's funny how justice serves. Haney may still be champ but is now a paper champion. Lomachenko in most people's eyes beat Haney and was never honoured with a rematch, if Garcia doesn't rematch Haney it will be sweet justice. Just saying!!!!!

[PRINCEKOOL]

Great performance by Garcia, but? Still people are overlooking that he missed the weight 'By quite a distance. He is not the WBC Light Welter Weight Champion'.

If Garcia's performance was negatively effected vs Tank Davis due to the catch weight and rehydration clause 'Then it would of been positively effected, by not making the 140 pound limit vs Haney'.

In the lower weight classes, and in all boxing events 'The competition starts way before fight night. The contest between the two fighters begins in training camp'.

Haney made the 140 pound limit, Garcia did not make the 140 pound limit 'If Garcia made a 136 pound limit vs Tank Davis, and he also adhere to the rehydration clause. Then it seems like ether he has not bothered to make a maximum effort in making the 140 limit, or he has tactically missed the weight'.

Due to the toxic culture of weight draining in the lower weight divisions, before this fight? It was common knowledge that both fighters were struggling to make the 140 pound limit.

Note: Ryan Garcia was definitively the better fighter on the night, and deserves credit for his performance. But nobody here can overlook the fact, that he missed the weight 'Garcia would of been a stronger fighter on fight night, because he did not weight drain himself to the extent which would of been required for him to make the 140 pound weight limit'.

Also people must understand that, comparing this generation of fighters to Floyd Mayweather Junior, Manny Pacquiao, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosely, Oscar De La Hoya 'It is clear for me that skill for skill, they are nowhere near the level of those fighters'.

Devin Haney is a great fighter within today's era of fighters, but skill for skill 'He is not on the same level as Mayweather Junior or Pacquiao. I would not even put him on the level of Miguel Cotto'.

Devin Haney conducted himself in preparation like a Champion 'He was the fighter who made the weight limit'. And on fight night, Haney lost but he did show courage and resolve to continually keep getting back up off the canvas.

There definitively needs to be a rematch 'In my opinion there is no other fight more important for ether fighter'.

I have watched people on these forums, the way you are all fixated on the lower weight classes 'And almost every fight, the topic of making the weight is brought into the discussion'.

This happened most with the Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence Junior fight 'After the fight, there were many people claiming that Spence Junior was by far too weight drained to perform at his best. But in my opinion both fighters were weight drained, it was just that Terrance Crawford made the weight more optimally'.

But the difference in that fight, compared to Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney 'Is that both Crawford and Spence Junior made the 147 pound weight limit'.

This is why I personally do not think it is quite correct, that people are blatantly overlooking the fact that Ryan Garcia did not make the 140 pound weight limit 'By quite distance'.

This is elite level sport and boxing, all of those factors 'Have effect on performances'.

If everyone is honest, this was not a equal fight 'Both fighters were not competing under the 140 pound Championship conditions'.

I am content that Garcia actually won the fight, because he has been making fights that he really could of avoided 'But moving forward Garcia if he wants to be considered a genuine top level fighter, he has to make these weight limits. And fight these other guys, under Championship conditions. Because that is how real Champions conduct themselves'.

Right now as we speak, Ryan Garcia is a great fighter, but he is not a Champion in the professional ranks. Because he has won no World title fights under Championship conditions.

'Garcia has ability. And he deserves credit for challenging himself, and making fights that he could otherwise avoid'.

The rematch definitively should be made 'I believe as a event, it will be great. There is more depth to the rivalry, between both fighters' etc.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Yep and he also let Cryan keep turning around backwards bending over like a ho positioning to get phucked

As I said before, I think you are confusing Ryan and his turning around and bending over to Haney actually turning around and bending over to Diddy.

[STREET CLEANER]

Haney did a Yo-Yo impression by the amount of times he went down and up. He might want to permanently list that ref for his future fights.

[Apollo7]

I like the comments here from Devin and Bill. Much more likeable when they're more humble and they seem like they have the right mindset to learn from this.