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    #11
    I favor Usyk a little, but not much. Both guys have flaws, if DDD was able to hurt Usyk badly the body, Fury can to it even better.

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      #12
      Fury will still have 50 pounds on him.

      I know he looked weaker than Ngannou but fair enough. Look at Ngannou. I think he was Fury's heaviest ever opponent and certainly his strongest ever opponent. Heavies are different. Ngannou was embarrassing but maybe it shouldn't be. A top MMA heavy was likely to be able to make a better transition than a small man.

      I do think Usyk is a better boxer than Fury. Of course he is. But if Fury is fit and focussed and in the zone he's just a massive lump who knows what he's doing in there. Ironically Ngannou showed that himself.

      Then the deciding factor will be whether Usyk can hurt Fury. Surely he can't beat him to the punch all night and not get zapped, pushed around and beaten up a bit.

      Never know with Fury. I've always expected his last appearance to be an absolute shocker where he doesn't care. Wakes up that morning and says f.uck this.

      And gets chinned.

      So I'd probably have a little bet on the most shocking outcome. Usyk KO.
      Last edited by Sparked_26; 12-26-2023, 05:57 AM.

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        #13
        Usyk is favourite. He beat josh x2 which up til now fury can only dream of doing.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Sparked_26 View Post
          Fury will still have 50 pounds on him.

          I know he looked weaker than Ngannou but fair enough. Look at Ngannou. I think he was Fury's heaviest ever opponent and certainly his strongest ever opponent. Heavies are different. Ngannou was embarrassing but maybe it shouldn't be. A top MMA heavy was likely to be able to make a better transition than a small man.

          I do think Usyk is a better boxer than Fury. Of course he is. But if Fury is fit and focussed and in the zone he's just a massive lump who knows what he's doing in there. Ironically Ngannou showed that himself.

          Then the deciding factor will be whether Usyk can hurt Fury. Surely he can't beat him to the punch all night and not get zapped, pushed around and beaten up a bit.

          Never know with Fury. I've always expected his last appearance to be an absolute shocker where he doesn't care. Wakes up that morning and says f.uck this.

          And gets chinned.

          So I'd probably have a little bet on the most shocking outcome. Usyk KO.
          Usyk is a better boxer in terms of textbook skills but the reason I favoured a prime fury was that I belive he was a more versatile fighter than Usyk, I think Fury's ability to adapt and employ dirty tactics would have been the difference because Usyk similar to lomachenko doesn't cope well with that and you can disrupt their rhythm.

          I don't think dirty tactics are a bad thing, Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, Foreman, all of them did it and it's part of the game at the top level of heavyweight boxing.

          I'm expecting Usyk to win though, Fury has looked on the slide to me since Wilder 2, and his biggest issue is his feet have slowed right down, so what he's left with is he's going to have to try and control the range just purely based off getting his jab landing early in the fight, and I don't think he will be able to consistently enough, do it'll be Usyk raiding and Fury won't be able to follow him out and impose his size.

          With that said every time I've picked against Fury he's won and usually in dominant fashion so I can't confidently pick against him.

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            #15
            The triangle theory doesn't apply in boxing, so going straight to Fury and Usyk - it depends on how serious Fury will approach his preparation, as he is very inconsistent. Another question is how tough will Usyk be after seeing him KOed unofficially. But maybe Usyk is now the favourite or it is 50:50

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