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    #81
    Originally posted by dan-b View Post

    It's because there's no incentive for people to climb down from their positions in an online context. Take the exchange I've been having above. The guy bristled at me saying he was a Fury worshipper, and yet he's doing all the things people emotionally invested in an individual fighter do: talking on their behalf; proffering excuses they haven't themselves given; accusing critics of being aligned with another fighter or having a hidden motive, etc.

    It's boring, and a reminder of why I have a low post count.
    Excuses Usyk is the one literally with the excuses in that scenario dying on a hill for a date that he knows isn't realistic now. Maybe you are an Usyk worshipper? After all he can do no wrong to you whereas me, a supposed Fury worshipper (Who I'm not even a fan of really let alone worshipper) I've called out for his nonsense plenty of times.

    You just said you'd rather the fight die over a date. Shows your position on it.

    I'd much rather it happen. It obviously isn't feasible for the 23rd in 7 weeks time after Fury's last night but for some reason you're ok with that. To each it's own.

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      #82
      I've seen a copy of the medical exemption Fury is applying for. It says...

      His ego is severely wounded.
      His tear ducts have dried up causing swelling round the eyes.
      And he's massively butthurt.

      Doctors recommend 3 months of sulking and sucking on wifey's titty befire he's even close to training again!

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        #83
        Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
        Why all the drama over moving it forward a month? The 2 month time between fights was/is crazy anyway.
        It should always be 3-4 months minimum unless it's really early in a fighter's career. Just my 37 cents worth, that's all.​

        Originally posted by Toffee View Post
        And if Usyk were to go and take an exhibition now it would be too soon. By December, Fury won't have defended the belt in a year. And 20 months since he fought anyone of any kind of worth. Fury can fight all the crossover exhibitions he wants. He go and do WWE in November if he wants. But he's supposed to defend his belt from time to time. It's not an excuse to move a signed fight. You can say it's only a month, but I reckon Team Klitschko were saying that 8 years ago. Usyk is at the top of the sport and the current peak of his career - he can't just keep waiting for Fury. He's going to end up with mandatories given he has 3 of the belts.
        Like I said, a month or two is nothing... no matter how many excuses come up from the
        Fury hate squad. The fight will happen soon enough.

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          #84
          Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
          Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
          Like I said, a month or two is nothing... no matter how many excuses come up from the
          Fury hate squad. The fight will happen soon enough.
          I'm totally fine with waiting if it actually does happen a month or two later, or if Fury mans up and keeps to his words that he will sue Usyk if the fight doesn't happen at December 23rd...oh wait.

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            #85
            Hes got a cut on his forehead. He cant spar for atleast a few weeks probably a month if he wants to be careful, he cant have a reasonable training camp. Proof of injury is the video of the ***ing fight that Usyk was watching in person
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              #86
              Originally posted by elfag View Post
              Hes got a cut on his forehead. He cant spar for atleast a few weeks probably a month if he wants to be careful, he cant have a reasonable training camp. Proof of injury is the video of the ***ing fight that Usyk was watching in person
              Except for the newer video where Fury says he has no cut on his forehead...

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                #87
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                Excuses Usyk is the one literally with the excuses in that scenario dying on a hill for a date that he knows isn't realistic now. Maybe you are an Usyk worshipper? After all he can do no wrong to you whereas me, a supposed Fury worshipper (Who I'm not even a fan of really let alone worshipper) I've called out for his nonsense plenty of times.

                You just said you'd rather the fight die over a date. Shows your position on it.

                I'd much rather it happen. It obviously isn't feasible for the 23rd in 7 weeks time after Fury's last night but for some reason you're ok with that. To each it's own.
                You are so full of it. Here's what you said when Fury was the one insisting on Dec 23.

                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                So if Usyk says he can’t fight in December like he did last year then who’s fault is it?
                Surely not Fury’s?
                So your position is that if Fury is the one insisting on a date and the fight doesn't happen, then it's Usyk's fault. But if Usyk holds him to the same standard, then it's Usyk's fault. So it's Usyk's fault no matter what.

                Keep lying.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

                  You are so full of it. Here's what you said when Fury was the one insisting on Dec 23.



                  So your position is that if Fury is the one insisting on a date and the fight doesn't happen, then it's Usyk's fault. But if Usyk holds him to the same standard, then it's Usyk's fault. So it's Usyk's fault no matter what.

                  Keep lying.
                  No, that was under the assumption they were both healthy post Ngannou.

                  This is a different sitatuon entirely because Fury has just been in a hard fight and If under the same cirumstance Usyk had a fight and got bashed up and dropped and was expected to fight 7 weeks later then no that would be Fury's fault if he insisted on not moving the date knowing full well that Usyk cannot fight on that date.

                  Also, I've already conceded that the last fall out for Fury-Usyk was Fury's fault after being presented with all the fact's that I wasn't aware of. So I'm more than willing to put the blame on Fury, like I did when he offered a bogus deadline for AJ and not for Chisora as one example.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                    No, that was under the assumption they were both healthy post Ngannou.

                    This is a different sitatuon entirely because Fury has just been in a hard fight and If under the same cirumstance Usyk had a fight and got bashed up and dropped and was expected to fight 7 weeks later then no that would be Fury's fault if he insisted on not moving the date knowing full well that Usyk cannot fight on that date.

                    Also, I've already conceded that the last fall out for Fury-Usyk was Fury's fault after being presented with all the fact's that I wasn't aware of. So I'm more than willing to put the blame on Fury, like I did when he offered a bogus deadline for AJ and not for Chisora as one example.
                    Maybe if Fury wasn't so overconfident about his flubby belly absorbing all the shots and didn't agree to fight a worthless exhibition knowing there was (supposed) to be a legit boxing match scheduled 7 weeks after this, there won't be this issue to begin with. Frankly the moment the date came out about Dec 23rd including the caveat "the fight will depend on Fury's health after the Ngannou fight", I was already 100% positive at that point the fight was not happening on 2023, and was only announced as a way to promote the Ngannou exhibition. Seeing how (un)fit Fury was against Ngannou, he could've been unhit by NGannow and still would've ended up with "health issues" that would've pushed the fight anyway.

                    I actually think the fight will gets postponed (not cancelled), and I HOPE that it happens eventually just so he can be out of the picture afterwards, but at this point Fury has zero credibility with anything he promises until the day he actually gets in the ring with Usyk. Basically, Fury followers are being hit with all the boomerangs that none other than their idol Fury threw.
                    "The fight MUST happen in Dec 23rd or I will sue Usyk!"
                    "I am not injured, why would the fight not happen on the date?"

                    None other than Fury himself is absolutely determined to make the fight happen on Dec 23rd, and according to the words of the mighty god he is uninjured from the exhibition...then why are his "fans" and his promoter trying to hinder him from making the fight that he desperately wants to happen on December 23rd? /sarcasm

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Elheath View Post
                      Maybe if Fury wasn't so overconfident about his flubby belly absorbing all the shots and didn't agree to fight a worthless exhibition knowing there was (supposed) to be a legit boxing match scheduled 7 weeks after this, there won't be this issue to begin with. Frankly the moment the date came out about Dec 23rd including the caveat "the fight will depend on Fury's health after the Ngannou fight", I was already 100% positive at that point the fight was not happening on 2023, and was only announced as a way to promote the Ngannou exhibition. Seeing how (un)fit Fury was against Ngannou, he could've been unhit by NGannow and still would've ended up with "health issues" that would've pushed the fight anyway.

                      I actually think the fight will gets postponed (not cancelled), and I HOPE that it happens eventually just so he can be out of the picture afterwards, but at this point Fury has zero credibility with anything he promises until the day he actually gets in the ring with Usyk. Basically, Fury followers are being hit with all the boomerangs that none other than their idol Fury threw.
                      "The fight MUST happen in Dec 23rd or I will sue Usyk!"
                      "I am not injured, why would the fight not happen on the date?"

                      None other than Fury himself is absolutely determined to make the fight happen on Dec 23rd, and according to the words of the mighty god he is uninjured from the exhibition...then why are his "fans" and his promoter trying to hinder him from making the fight that he desperately wants to happen on December 23rd? /sarcasm
                      I don't disagree with that. If Usyk was injured for example, and he wouldn't budge on that date then that would be idiotic from Fury and I wouldn't put that past Fury because he's shown that behaviour in the past.

                      But the same applies for Usyk here, he knows full well Fury isn't going to be ready for the 23rd so refusing to budge on it is entirely him to blame.

                      If Fury came out unscathed and Usyk wouldn't budge on the date then that's a different story entirely. But the fight didn't go to plan, and we know he's not going to be ready for that date now.

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