It looks like Porter giving it to PACMAN

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Where are these Pacquiao fans getting butthurt that you speak of?

The only butthurt person I see in here is you. As soon as anything slightly negative about Manny is posted you say "great ****ing post!!!!!1 jajajaja" or some ****.

BTW, the author of that article is an absolute ****-head.

Shawn Porter was brought in to give Manny good sparring. I would be worried if Manny started beating Porter up because obviously Porter would be sub-par as a sparring partner. He needs to be pushed. It's early, too. Lots of time to improve and become sharper.

And you just proved my point, thanks!!!!!!

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Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Joey Maxim. I guess that shouldn't have happened either, seeing as Ray only weighed in at 157½ lbs for a light heavy title fight?

The only thing that beat Ray was the temperature -- 105 degrees at ringside -- hence Ray collapsing from heat exhaustion after 13 rounds. Other than that, he was whipping Maxim's ass on all score cards.

pac ain't SRR tho... and they aren't even on the same level according to some

I don't agree with any of you people saying fighters shouldn't venture beyond their comfort zone or take risks by fighting bigger guys. How else are they supposed to achieve greatness and stand out from the crowd when so many people want them to stay in the comfort of their own safety zone?

there are plenty of challenges at 140 lbs... its not like there aren't.

This is the third time in less than one year that people have said Manny is too small. Every time, he blitzes his opponent and you wondered why the **** you ever doubted him. Now it happens again. Surely you see a pattern here.

how many more times can pac do it tho? that's what i'm asking.... how far can pac stretch it before he hits a wall...

[-MAKAVELLI-]

That doesnt make any sense.


One thing doent have anything to do with the other.

Try again!!!!!

all Roach had to say was PAC was hitting like a MW and you went in there all butthurt talkin about 'oh he's just tryin to intimidate miguel' 'manny's shooting movies' basically, bending over and farting up a response to hide your fear

[Chuckguy]

I think pacs hits like a middleweight....
PWill middleweight and he aint knocking ish out
hahahha
good luck Packy

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And you just proved my point, thanks!!!!!!

That response was weak. I didn't prove any point, so chill.


1: It's a **** article written by a guy trying to be a boxing journalist but failing miserably. He isn't paid to write articles. His opinion is completely worthless.

2: There are no butthurt Pacquiao fans in the thread.

3: Manny probably totaled 7 rounds of sparring so far.

4: He is sparring against a guy who could be weighing anything up to 170lbs. Do you honestly expect Manny to be punching the crap out of sparring partners who weigh as much as a super middleweight after just 7 rounds of sparring since last May?

You know, I am happy that Porter is pushing Pacquiao to his limit at this point. If he can deal with Porter and Henry, he can deal with Cotto. Success comes through patience and endurance.



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[Animalistic 5.0]

By Manuel Perez

Well, it looks like old Nostradamus Freddie Roach is back to his predictions again, this time he’s saying that Manny Pacquiao will knock World Organization welterweight champion Miguel Cotto out on November 14th. In an article by Dennis Principe at Sports. Inquirer, Roach had this to say: “I picked him [Pacquiao] to win by decision, but until I started working him to this camp, the way he’s punching, his speed, we will knock this guy [Cotto] out.”


I really love the way Roach includes his name with the “we” part, as if he’ll be out there tagging Cotto as well. That’s funny. It won’t be any ‘we’ on November 14th. Pacquiao is going to be out there all by his lonesome facing Cotto and he’s going to have major problems. But I knew Roach was going to come back with a knockout prediction sooner or later. I was in disbelief when Roach started talking nice recently when he said that Cotto is a dangerous fighter and that the fight would go to a decision.

It almost seemed like Roach was trying to talk up the fight because almost no boxing fans were giving Cotto much of any chance against Pacquiao. Nothing has changed much since then, and here Roach is changing his tune by predicting a knockout win for Pacquiao. I’m wondering what Roach will say next. Maybe predict a 1st or 2nd round knockout, I guess.

He’s going to have to come up with something shocking to top his latest knockout prediction. All I can think of is he’ll say something like, “Manny is not only going to win, he’s going to flatten Cotto in the 1st round. How do you like them apples?” The media will eat it up like candy, of course. But there won’t be a knockout from Pacquiao’s side. There will be a knockout, but it will be Pacquiao who ends up getting taken out and Roach is going to end up with pie his face for his wrong prediction. I’m really looking forward to this so I can gloat and say I told you so.

I hear Pacquiao had some problems against his sparring partner Shawn Porter (10-0, 8 KO’s) in Pacquiao’s first day of sparring. I can’t say I’m surprised. Porter, a light middleweight, is fast and powerful and would probably wipe the deck with Pacquiao if the sparring went beyond three rounds. Porter’s the real deal. I don’t know that he’ll end up a champion in the light middleweight division because he’s only 5’7”, on the short side for a light middleweight, but he’s tough fighter.

I could see him beating Pacquiao up. I wonder how long he’ll last in the camp? If Roach lets him spar too much with Pacquiao, there probably won’t be enough left for Cotto to fight by November 14th. Look for Roach to start substituting the smaller, slower and weaker sparring partners, like Urbano Antillon, real quick rather than letting Porter beat up Pacquiao every day during training camp.

Roach: “Basically, we’re going to have a fast start and we’re not going to give [Cotto] any momentum.” It looks as if Roach is struck on the record of Pacquiao’s last fight against Ricky Hatton, and thinks Pacquiao can have the same kind of success if Manny bum rushes Cotto from the start of the fight. Sorry, that kind of approach won’t work against a talented fighter like Cotto.

It might work against a slower fighter such as Hatton, but not Cotto. If Pacquiao tries that approach, he’ll walk into a big right hand and get planted on the canvas on his backside. I really hope Pacquiao does try that aggressive style on Cotto, because Pacquiao will quickly find out that he doesn’t have the size or the power to be successful using that against a quality fighter like Cotto. That approach works against shot fighters and less talented ones, but it won’t work against Cotto

The man is one of the best writers in boxing! All his articles are pretty good!

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pac ain't SRR tho... and they aren't even on the same level according to some

I was waiting for this exact response, P. Yep, I know Manny isn't SRR, but that's not the point bro. I wasn't comparing Robinson and Pacquiao, I was saying that fighters shouldn't be discouraged or frowned upon for taking risks and trying to be the best they can.

Contrary, it should be encouraged. If a fighter does the opposite (like Joe Calzaghe) and stays dominant in his weight class for a long time (10 years in Joe's case) he's gonna be crucified for it anyway!

"Why doesn't he move up and challenge himself? Joe is such a *****! He just sits there scared to venture outside his comfort zone! What about Jones (light heavyweight a whole year before Calzaghe even won his first belt), or James Toney (moved beyond 168 three years before Calzaghe became champ)... These guys would **** Joe up!"

A fighter can never win with the boxing public no matter what he does, he's always being told by fans who think they know better than pro fighters and trainers that he's doing something wrong.

Basically, if Manny loses (and I don't see it happening in November), it doesn't matter. He pushed himself and tried to be the best that he can be, make history, and go down as a real legend of the sport. Personally, I love that, and I admire his courage. So, all the best to him. I hope he achieves the greatness he's working so hard for.



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[WhoreUs]

Pacquiao has beaten legends.

Cotto couldn't even stop his old ass uncle from throwing a brick at his car.



True story.

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The man is one of the best writers in boxing! All his articles are pretty good!

But if he ever said anything negative about a fighter you liked, you would be the first one to say he doesn't know **** about boxing and how much of a dumbass he is.

Journalists are supposed to walk the line of neutrality. The worst kind of journalists are the ones who don't.



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[ИATAS]

This guy is an idiot for so many reasons but mainly because sparring is used for preparation of an upcoming fight, not too mention he's going by what he heard on pacquiao's FIRST day of sparring (he isn't even in peak form yet).

For pacquiao to even be sparring and trading with a middleweight says something about pacquiao himself.