Weight NOT the reason PBF beat Marquez

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

The problem is everyone has an excuse when their fighter loses. That is nothing new to this forum. JMM should have still landed more than what he did if it was only the weight that made the difference. It would have been like Cotto Margarito. Cotto was still able to land some great shots, but Margarito being the bigger man, out toughed him. JMM just couldn't find a way to compete with the better Mayweather. Floyd does this to everyone and will continue to, just like the haters will continue doubting him. If Floyd didn't have such a big mouth, he'd be given the credit he deserves. And that will be the story of his career and the reason he won't be considered an all time great for many years from now just like Tyson. In other words you have to wait for the haters to die (lol) before you get a group of people in there that can view a fighter for what he really was without letting emotions getting involved. Thats all there is to it.

[Jiddu Dali]

Sorry Jiddu, but this thread is meritless.

The fact that Floyd DID NOT want to come in at the initial agreed upon weight of 144 shows that weight WAS the factor.

You guys talk about doublestandards so much that I had to get a plug in for firefox just to block the word yet you say the only reason Pacquiao beat DLH was because he was weight drained?

How?

DLH isn't an infighter. He never really went in a fight bullying, throwing his weight arround. He was a puncher/boxer. Yet he agreed to come down to 147 and Pac dominated him. But it was because of weight?

Floyd DECLINED to come down from his natural weight. He stayed at the weight he knew he would be 100% in. The weight were his speed and reflexes wouldn't be diminished where as Marquez DIDNT. Marquez gained mass and weight which obviously took away from his abilities.

You're going to say Marquez agreed to it so it's his fault, but thats not what the thread is about. Weight was the main factor in this fight.

You guys need to make up your mind. You either call this a tune up or a legit fight that Floyd should get all the credit for. You can't have both when debating this.

Tell me why Marquez threw 100 more punches and landed %50 less? That doesnt show me the sign of a fighter who was effected by weight. Mayweather is just a better fighter why cant people just give the guy credit.

Floyd declined? How do we know if his injury was the reason for not being able to lose the weight and box effectively. Marquez agreed to switch the terms of the contract. Why the excuses after?

Tell me how a few lbs difference would allow Marquez to break Mayweathers defense or allow him to defend vs Mayweathers offense?

[Jiddu Dali]

1)Congratulations Einstein.

2)Watching that 5 TIME = you're a Floyd stalker. I wouldn't watch that **** more than twice even if i was a Leo Ellerbe.

You have never watched a prize fight 5 times?

Part time boxing fan?

[S.G.]

You guys talk about doublestandards so much that I had to get a plug in for firefox just to block the word yet you say the only reason Pacquiao beat DLH was because he was weight drained?

How?

DLH isn't an infighter. He never really went in a fight bullying, throwing his weight arround. He was a puncher/boxer. Yet he agreed to come down to 147 and Pac dominated him. But it was because of weight?

It was down to a lot of things. Oscar cutting the weight, Oscar being old, Pacquiao being so damn good.

Like the Mayweather - Marquez fight. Marquez was diminshed in some aspects due to the mass he gained, and Mayweather is also just that good that he can prevent someone as good as Marquez from even getting into the fight.

And this is just my opinion but I definitely believe Marquez was less impaired than Pacquiao's Oscar, and I reckon that version of Juan would probably beat that version of Oscar.

You guys need to make up your mind. You either call this a tune up or a legit fight that Floyd should get all the credit for. You can't have both when debating this.

We Floyd fans aren't one collective mass you know, we each have our own thoughts

[fdotorres]

So if you watch any fight 5 times are you a stan?



nice response einstein

there's a difference between watching fights several times (corrales/castillo, gatti/ward, morales/pac/barrera) and watching this pile of crap 5 times

[S.G.]

there's a difference between watching fights several times (corrales/castillo, gatti/ward, morales/pac/barrera) and watching this pile of crap 5 times

Sorry but the fight was not a pile of crap by any stretch of the imagination.

The phrase "poetry in motion" gets thrown around a lot but it definitely applies to Mayweather's performance that night.

[fdotorres]

Hmmmm IDK...Marquez looked fast on 24/7...he looked good on fight night in the ring. He threw 100 more punches than Mayweather but landed %50 less. That to me shows me he was in shape, strong and fast.

a natural 130 pounder is in shape, strong, and fast weighting 148? hahahahahahhahaahhaahahahah

[fdotorres]

Sorry but the fight was not a pile of crap by any stretch of the imagination.

The phrase "poetry in motion" gets thrown around a lot but it definitely applies to Mayweather's performance that night.

a great natural WW fighter dominated a great natural SFW fighter, how poetic!!

[IMDAZED]

I agree. On an even playing field, Mayweather defeats Marquez soundly. Kinda ironic since Mayweather was a pretty big super feather. Sure he didn't gain weight after the weigh-in but he was naturally bigger. But what I noticed watching the fight again is how much bigger Mayweather's legs looked--along with the rest of him. He's a full-fledged welter and probably gained at least 5-7lbs following the weigh-in. Just my take.

[RingTech01]

size had little to do with it. marquez landing around twelve percent of his punches to floyd landing close to sixty percent. a shut out of skill.