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    #41
    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    without his size he's nothing special
    Without Shaq's size, he's nothing special.

    Without Pac's speed, he's nothing special.

    Without Sweet Pea's defense, he's nothing special.

    Without DLH's left hand, he's nothing special.
    Last edited by Jim Jeffries; 09-27-2009, 01:45 AM.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
      Without Shaq's size, he's nothing special.
      Lol, exactly. You can not blame the guy for being 6"8.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
        Without Shaq's size, he's nothing special.

        Without Pac's speed, he's nothing special.

        Without Sweet Pea's defense, he's nothing special.
        owned.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
          without his size he's nothing special
          Thats funny because guys like Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker, Valuev and Tye Fields also have a lotta size.

          Why aren't they world champions who beat everyone put in front of them.

          Come on pull, you're better than this. Give the bro's credit, they are excellent ATG level HWeights.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
            He'd kick Joe Louis's ass, he'd kick Marciano's ass, he'd k.o Liston, he'd massacre Frazier.

            The only 2 that could give Big V a decent fight are Ali and prime Foreman.

            I'm not sure they beat Big V, but they'd give him a fight.

            Big V is the truth street, come on now.

            You know better than this.
            Joe Louis would have a field day with Vitaly, and an old Lennox Lewis already beat him. Tyson, Holmes, Ali, Frazier all beat him, and maybe Liston, Holyfield, Bowe and Foreman.

            That said, V is a beast and would be formidable against any fighter in history. But ATG isn't based on fantasy match ups, but on resume and accomplishment. In that department Vitaly falls short because he fights in the weakest heavyweight era in hist5ory. Not his fault, just bad luck for him.

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              #46
              He wouldn't be an ATG even if he stopped Lewis. Seriously

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                #47
                Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
                Thats funny because guys like Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker, Valuev and Tye Fields also have a lotta size.

                Why aren't they world champions who beat everyone put in front of them.

                Come on pull, you're better than this. Give the bro's credit, they are excellent ATG level HWeights.
                i'm just saying... his style is garbage and without his size advantage he'd be an average HW.

                grant, whitaker, valuev and fields are subpar. its not fair to group vitaly with those guys

                Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
                Without Shaq's size, he's nothing special.
                false. shaq has good speed, great coordination , and a lot of skill for a guy his size

                Without Pac's speed, he's nothing special.
                false, has a great work ethic and incredible tenacity.
                Without Sweet Pea's defense, he's nothing special.
                false. sweet pea had tremendous boxing ability, threw combinations, decent power, good speed, etc...

                Without DLH's left hand, he's nothing special.
                false. dlh had a tremendous following and was incredibly popular.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                  i'm just saying... his style is garbage and without his size advantage he'd be an average HW.

                  grant, whitaker, valuev and fields are subpar. its not fair to group vitaly with those guys


                  false. shaq has good speed, great coordination , and a lot of skill for a guy his size


                  false, has a great work ethic and incredible tenacity.

                  false. sweet pea had tremendous boxing ability, threw combinations, decent power, good speed, etc...


                  false. dlh had a tremendous following and was incredibly popular.

                  All the bold apply to the bro's pull.

                  The last part applies to them in Europe in particular.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                    i'm just saying... his style is garbage and without his size advantage he'd be an average HW.

                    grant, whitaker, valuev and fields are subpar. its not fair to group vitaly with those guys


                    false. shaq has good speed, great coordination , and a lot of skill for a guy his size


                    false, has a great work ethic and incredible tenacity.

                    false. sweet pea had tremendous boxing ability, threw combinations, decent power, good speed, etc...


                    false. dlh had a tremendous following and was incredibly popular.
                    and Vitali doesn't have all those things you mentioned? Great work ethic, combinations, good power, speed, etc?
                    You're a ****** and a biased moron.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
                      Thats funny because guys like Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker, Valuev and Tye Fields also have a lotta size.

                      Why aren't they world champions who beat everyone put in front of them.

                      Come on pull, you're better than this. Give the bro's credit, they are excellent ATG level HWeights.
                      Not the best fighter either of them fought. He was stopped in 6.

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