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    When floyd calls out fighters, he doesnt really mean it. Read this.

    Don't Be Surprised If Mosley-Mayweather Rumors Escalate


    By Frank Lotierzo

    Recently Golden Boy Promotions honcho Richard Schaefer said that the big fight in boxing is now Shane Mosley vs. Floyd Mayweather? As most know GBP has promotional ties with Shane and has worked with Floyd. Before Mayweather took apart the seemingly diminutive Juan Manuel Marquez last Saturday night, the thought of getting Mosley and Mayweather together was a pipe-dream. It's no secret that Mayweather has been smartly waiting for Shane to age and decline before taking a chance fighting him. And please, anyone who thinks Mosley ducked Mayweather is blinded with bias. Is there any boxing fan/writer out there who really believes Mayweather would've gone through with a fight between them circa 2000-2007? Based on the history of both fighters - Mayweather hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt in this case.

    For those needing a brief history lesson - it was in late June of 2005 and Mayweather had just looked sensational in stopping the late Arturo Gatti. Shortly after fighting Gatti, Mayweather issued a challenge to Winky Wright who defeated Felix Trinidad a month earlier after beating Shane Mosley in their rematch in November of 2004. At that time I wrote for another entity and said Mayweather was just trying to get attention and had no intention of ever fighting Wright. None whatsoever. Stating that Floyd would get out of the fight by making outrageous demands that Wright would never accept. Only Mayweather was wrong and Wright did accept his terms knowing he'd do exactly to Mayweather what Floyd just did to Marquez. Winky knew his size and strength would neutralize Mayweather's speed and skill set. Once Wright agreed to accept the ridiculous deal, surprise, Mayweather turned a deaf ear and went another direction and fought Sharmba Mitchell.


    The point is - just by looking at the record and resumes of both Mosley and Mayweather, any objective/insightful boxing fan can see which fighter has avoided the toughest fights and biggest challenges and which one looks to make them, something that may not have always been the greatest for Mosley's career monetarily and strategically. As mentioned before, Mayweather hasn't defeated a single fighter that Mosley wouldn't have defeated easier.

    Back to the current scene. Look for the rumors and talk of a Mosley-Mayweather bout to escalate before Pacquiao-Cotto meet this coming November 14th. The only problem with that is it's just subterfuge. Mosley's name will be thrown out as an opponent for Mayweather by GBP because Shane wants a big fight, and it serves them both well. And the Mayweather faction will do it trying to gain some of the leverage Floyd failed to reel in with his fight against Marquez for a proposed fight with Manny Pacquiao.

    Mosley's scripted theatrics in the ring after Mayweather's fight with Marquez has helped and benefited Mayweather. The idea that some were insulted and thought Mosley's behavior was classless must be kidding. In other words the fighter who came to the ring with a wrestler named triple-H, and also learned his own form of outlandish behavior from the WWE, is too dignified to be challenged by another fighter in the ring? Please! Mosley did himself and Mayweather a huge favor. Shane's so-called classless act gave Mayweather and even more viable opponent to face than Pacquiao. On the other hand Mosley put a little heat on Floyd to possibly fight him.

    This will no doubt irritate and outrage the Mayweather apologist, but while Shane and Floyd were standing face to face in the ring, it sure looked like Mayweather had more reservation about Mosley than the opposite. Then again maybe I'm wrong and Mosley is the one who harbors trepidation about a potential fight between them. All I know is that it's doubtful we'll see the fight. Although it would be great to see Mayweather in there with a real fighter his size despite him crowding 40 years old, and the thought of Mosley not going after Floyd because he fears getting hit by Mayweather's lead left-hook doesn't exist.

    When all is said and done, Mosley-Mayweather is a better fight than Pacquiao-Mayweather. It's been said in this space since Pacquiao knocked out Ricky Hatton that Mayweather has the perfect style along with speed and strength to handle Pacquiao. Actually, Floyd may work Manny over more than he did Marquez due to the fact that Marquez never believed he could hurt Mayweather and for that reason never pressed him. Pacquiao has a punchers mindset and would believe he was never more than a punch away from putting Mayweather to sleep. And it would be that mindset that would induce him to take more chances and jump in, which Mayweather lives for his opponents to do.

    Now that Mayweather-Marquez is history, the focus will be on Pacquiao-Cotto. So look for GBP and Mayweather to try and steal some of the limelight from Pacquiao-Cotto by speculating that Mayweather doesn't need Pacquiao and is considering a fight with Mosley. It makes perfect business sense for all parties involved with the exception of Mosley, who stands a good chance of missing out on fighting both Mayweather and Pacquiao.

    Here's why. If Pacquiao beats Cotto, the obvious big fight is with Mayweather. However, if Cotto beats Pacquiao then Mayweather is in the driver’s seat. Knowing how Mayweather thinks, it's easy to see how it will unfold. If given the choice between fighting Cotto and Mosley, it's Cotto. For starters it would be for more money and with Cotto holding a win over Mosley, why would Mayweather fight a guy Cotto already beat? Secondly, Mayweather matches up better with Cotto than he does Mosley. In a bout with Cotto, Mayweather would force Miguel to lead and push the fight and would be open to get busted up on the way in. Maybe Cotto could hurt Mayweather if he could get inside, but he'd pay a price in doing it. Whereas Mosley could adjust better and has more weapons to deal with and handle Mayweather than Cotto does, especially with the way he's looks to have improved under new trainer Nazeem Richardson.

    Regardless of what's floated out there teasing boxing fans about a potential Mosley-Mayweather showdown, it's not gonna happen in the foreseeable future if ever. Conventional wisdom says Mayweather will just sit back and hope for Pacquiao to beat Cotto. And if he doesn't, he'll make the smarter business decision and fight Cotto. Which for Mayweather is definitely the prudent thing to do.

    So don't believe the Mosley-Mayweather hype if it starts.

    #2
    everyone knew he was B.Sing with wright, i mean, seriously, NOBODY expected that fight to actually happen, NOBODY.

    Keep in mind, im not gathering that from some ****ing biased article, i remember being on this board, and i clearly remember, nobody thought it would ever go down, they were seen later sitting next to each other at a fight, laughing and being cool with each other. it was a big stunt pulled for really no reason at all other than to gather attention.

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      #3
      Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
      everyone knew he was B.Sing with wright, i mean, seriously, NOBODY expected that fight to actually happen, NOBODY.

      Keep in mind, im not gathering that from some ****ing biased article, i remember being on this board, and i clearly remember, nobody thought it would ever go down, they were seen later sitting next to each other at a fight, laughing and being cool with each other. it was a big stunt pulled for really no reason at all other than to gather attention.
      How do you know he was BSing? Floyd defenders have made threads showing video of floyd calling out all kinds of fighters. they act like it proves he wasnt ducking fighters. now you want to make excuses when he calls out a fighter & was caught lying by a reporter now you call biased. floyd clearly lies & contradicts all the time but somehow you guys find a way to defend those lies & contradictions.

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        #4
        didnt shane say his little toofies was to loose to fight mayweather??

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          #5
          1st off I think the Winky talk was legit and people on here and that writer were clowns for ripping Floyd. The only real reason why the fight went away is because the idiot Winky & Shaw wanted 50/50. Why woud Floyd fight a huge guy like Winky who was considered the top guy in the game along with Floyd at the time when Floyd was the bigger name? Why? People forget all about that stuff but I dont. Ive got articles where Winky and them said non stop that theyre not fighting Floyd for less than 50 so why would Floyd do that and why would people rip him for not taking it?

          Now lets say it was true and the Winky talk was a joke. How does a Winky fight compare at all to a Mosley fight? Anyone with a brain can see that Floyd would much easier want to fight Shane than a Winky. 1st off Shane started at LW while Winky started at 154. 2nd, when the Winky stuff was talked about, Floyd was at 140 and looking small at that weight while Winky just destroyed Tito at MW. They both agreed that Floyd would have to come to 154 straight from 140 to fight a Winky that just fought at MW, yet people still ripped Floyd for wanting more than 50. The Shane fight is now with 2 guys who are both at WW. Comparing the 2 matchups are night & day, apples & oranges. That guy just hates Floyd. Its dumb to compare the 2

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            #6
            Originally posted by DLT View Post
            1st off I think the Winky talk was legit and people on here and that writer were clowns for ripping Floyd. The only real reason why the fight went away is because the idiot Winky & Shaw wanted 50/50. Why woud Floyd fight a huge guy like Winky who was considered the top guy in the game along with Floyd at the time when Floyd was the bigger name? Why? People forget all about that stuff but I dont. Ive got articles where Winky and them said non stop that theyre not fighting Floyd for less than 50 so why would Floyd do that and why would people rip him for not taking it?

            Now lets say it was true and the Winky talk was a joke. How does a Winky fight compare at all to a Mosley fight? Anyone with a brain can see that Floyd would much easier want to fight Shane than a Winky. 1st off Shane started at LW while Winky started at 154. 2nd, when the Winky stuff was talked about, Floyd was at 140 and looking small at that weight while Winky just destroyed Tito at MW. They both agreed that Floyd would have to come to 154 straight from 140 to fight a Winky that just fought at MW, yet people still ripped Floyd for wanting more than 50. The Shane fight is now with 2 guys who are both at WW. Comparing the 2 matchups are night & day, apples & oranges. That guy just hates Floyd. Its dumb to compare the 2
            Some people have not been boxing fans long enough to remember the way things happen or try to twist it a bit to make it fit an agenda. Happens a lot.

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              #7
              Originally posted by mitruth View Post
              Some people have not been boxing fans long enough to remember the way things happen or try to twist it a bit to make it fit an agenda. Happens a lot.
              Basically most of the board thought it was bull, i certainly did. Floyd would have had to move up two divisions in a fight destined to be a clash of styles to put me and you to sleep.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Spear View Post
                How do you know he was BSing? Floyd defenders have made threads showing video of floyd calling out all kinds of fighters. they act like it proves he wasnt ducking fighters. now you want to make excuses when he calls out a fighter & was caught lying by a reporter now you call biased. floyd clearly lies & contradicts all the time but somehow you guys find a way to defend those lies & contradictions.


                Nobody gave a **** about him fighting winky at the time and nobody really cared to see it, at that time everyone only cared about one fight, Judah/Mayweather.

                If thats an "excuse" or "defense" then so be it.

                I swear, you would only be satisfied if i said "FLOYD IS A PUZZY, A DUCKER, A LIAR AND A RUNNER"

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                  #9
                  No video of Shane whining about a tooth ache? Interesting...

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                    #10
                    the winky fight didn't go down because winky refused to weight 154 lbs on fight night. flloyd was trying to drain winky.

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