Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather. Why I view Manny as a VERY dangerous opponent.

[S A M U R A I]

Cotto is gonna get his ass kicked.

If it turns out how I imagine, I'll agree with that.

But you never know! Cotto might just prove to be a step too far. This is a big risk for Pacquiao and pretty much no risk at all for Cotto. Then again, the DLH fight was also a big risk, but look how that turned out.



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[whirlwind]

Truth is, Pacquiao would have badly beat that Marquez. Some people are trippin.

I agree. Pac of now vs JMM who Mayweather fought. Pacman will do better as what he did to DLH and Hatton.

[neezynola]

pacman is a overated weak boy and someone should check him for steroids

[jaestix1]

THANK YOU. Why arent people asking this Question?

This is THE most important Question of the fight....

you should make a thread about that aspect of the fight.

good post

lol...people aren't using any logic. they're just using emotions in their predictions. what if just what if the BIGGER pbf decides to come foward like he did against judah and corley? people fail to realize that floyd can adapt and fight ANY STYLE he wants to if need be. when floyd was coming forward against chop chop and zab, floyd let his hands go and was landing at WILL against them....plus i don't think pac's defense is any better then judah's or chop chop's.... in fact imho pac is way easier to hit....a slower jmm proved it. if floyd decides to come forward and impose his size, it would be a wrap for pac because he can't fight backwards that good.

[jaestix1]

Floyd's fight with Judah is the measuring stick Team Pacquiao will use to strategize against Floyd.

IF the fight ever gets made I wouldn't count Manny out so easily. I'm almost certain Freddie and Manny have been studying Floyd's fights for a while 'just in case'.

Manny will have to be at his best, and I have no doubt he will be.

surely you jest....i would never count pac out, but this would a terrible decision for pac to use the "judah" strategy. judah was BOXING mayweather and was waiting for floyd to come to him...zab using his right jab to set up that big left and was sucessful for the first 4 rounds. then floyd was like "ok, you want outbox me?what are you nuts?? i'll counter that right jab with my left hook" and BAM it took zab out of his game....you see, it wasn't that zab just ran out of gas, it was that pbf took zab's jab away, the "southpaw" jab that set up his big shots. the rest is history.

[MANGLER]

Cotto is too strong for lil Pac. I'll be surprised if he don't KO him within 7.

[Ray*]

If it turns out how I imagine, I'll agree with that.

But you never know! Cotto might just prove to be a step too far. This is a big risk for Pacquiao and pretty much no risk at all for Cotto. Then again, the DLH fight was also a big risk, but look how that turned out.

Big risk for Manny but not Cotto??? thats way over the top there mate, Pacman is in a win-win situation just like JMM was with the Mayweather fight, If Pacman wins he would be the greatest thing since slice bread and if he loses well "Cotto is the bigger man", If cotto loses then he's stock takes a hit just like Oscar because they are the bigger man and the fact that Manny made Cotto comes down to 145 made this fight a NO-risk fight for Pacman, Even if he loses he wouldnt be destroyed because he has speed something which he would need against the slower cotto.

So in conclusion Manny is fighting a NO-risk fight interms of reputation while Cotto is the one risking everything and putting it on the line.

[The Noose]

Not overlooking Cotto.

What happened on Saturday doesn't indicate what Mayweather would be able to do against an opponent like Manny Pacquiao. While Juan Manuel Marquez was indeed the smaller guy, Marquez's style was also tailor made for Floyd Mayweather. Very few have been able to counter punch against Mayweather, Zab Judah being one of them; dude is fast and a south paw. Marquez doesn't have that type of athletic ability. Marquez has been more about timing.

Pacquiao has the speed to match Mayweather; is a south paw, so the shoulder roll won't be as effective. Pacquiao has the foot speed/ foot work/ angles to make Mayweather VERY uncomfortable. Also a new found more developed right hook. Jesus Chavez/ JLC were able to land right hands over the top against Mayweather and they fight out of an orthodox stance, Marquez did as well but rarely. Much easier for a south paw to land right hooks against Mayweather, especially one as athletic as Pacquiao. Also, Manny Pacquiao's 5'6 height would be VERY beneficial, in that, like Jesus Chavez, who is short; Pacquiao will be able to land over the top with the right hook.

We have to look at Zab Judah's success against Mayweather. Zab Judah stopped throwing the jab because he was being countered with left hooks over the top.




So Mayweather managed to take away one of his weapons and proceeded to break him down to the body. I don't see Mayweather having that sort of success against Pacquiao, Pacquiao is a VERY explosive combination puncher . He will jab to the body though, which is MUCH less of a risk. I don't think Zab Judah wasn't conditioned enough to go the 12 rounds with Mayweather, I believe he was. It had more to do with Mayweather's precise/ constant body attack.

Some may disagree but to me, Pacquiao's hand speed is slightly slower then Judah's. But Pacquiao's foot speed compensates for that. I've already mentioned that Pacquiao is more consistent so, who has Mayweather faced that has the stamina/ activity that Manny Pacquiao brings? No one. Would Mayweather be able to attack the body (As he did against Judah) without getting hit upstairs against an explosive combination puncher in Pacquiao? I have a hard time seeing that. What Mayweather vs. Marquez proved is that, Marquez isn't no where nearly as good of a weight jumper as Pacquiao. A good debate is, comparing Pacquiao's power/ hand speed with Judah's.

Next I'll make a thread as to why Pacquiao is gonna beat Cotto.

Thats all well and good, but ultimately IMO it comes down to this.

Pac has looked great against people who go to war with him, or are there to be hit ; Barrera, Morales, Hatton, Oscar, Diaz.

He struggled both times with JMM.

Floyd is near impossible to hit.
JMM moved forward as fast as he could, threw long combinations, and missed by a mile. He had minor success on the ropes.

Pacs defence isnt as good as JMM's.

I think Floyds footwork, hand speed are much better than Pacs.


Pac hits air, and leaves himself open for counters.

[6Bound]

Ive been saying the same thing in regards to Mayweather/Judah...Had Zab had the fortitude to stay in a good mind frame, who knows...He needed to throw more and keep his hands up..

Plus dont forget Zab made him take a seat..Shouldve been counted as a knockdown..

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[Doctor_Tenma]

Ive been saying the same thing in regards to Mayweather/Judah...Had Zab had the fortitude to stay in a good mind frame, who knows...He needed to throw more and keep his hands up..

Plus dont forget Zab made him take a seat..Shouldve been counted as a knockdown..

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Not really, it's already proven that Judah stepped on Mayweather's feet. There are pics out there, not a K.D.