Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder Destroys Robert Helenius With Vicious Knockout in One

[wileyhemi]

When boxing fails to entertain, one must entertain themselves...

...oneself ...

[Inspired]

I never made much about wilder
But he’s my guy

he fights and throws chingay

takes a loss like a man

i dont know what you said...i dont know what a chingay is..and wilder didnt take his loss. he still thinks he beat fury.

[Tom Joad]

"takes a loss like a man"

Yeah, like a "man" who says he only lost because his legs were all tuckered out from walking to the ring in his ****** costume.

As for the Helenius fight, the punch looks more legit from this angle:

[Tom Joad]

The thing about the KO is when you watch it in slow motion in one view it doesn’t look like much but it real time that thud sounded devastating. I watched it in full speed & slow motion from a few angles. One slo-mo view shows a flush shot pushing his face in & it looked like a punch with massive impact whereas another view made it look like nothing. Helenius stepped right into that short right & he was done before he hit the canvas. Wilder at 214 is so much better than Wilder at 238. I knew Helenius was tailor made for him & called Helenius to get Breazealed. I just wish he would have fought the 2nd & 3rd Fury fights at this weight instead of the high 230s. Those chicken legs couldn’t carry the weight. Glad he is back & lighter. Not a fan of his & think he sounds like a twatwaffle every time he opens his mouth but I think the division is so much better when he is in the picture.

Believe u r right about the angles. The punch looks much more legit in the slowmo i just posted above.

[MoneyKing]

You have no life huh

And you do?

[Sid-Knee]

You want to discredit some known names but cannot mention a single known name that Zhang has ever fought? Zhang is "fresh"? in which parallel universe? The Kownacki fight did not happen a decade ago in case you have been hiding under a rock. As I said, I do not rate Helenius as an elite fighter but definitely a notch or two above those two.

Vallin's rise to fame is because he was able to cut Fury. Still lost by a wide margin. And Fury is known to only rise to the level of his opposition. He didn't even KO Safari in a single round. Fury fighting Vallin was a pre-Kronk Fury that was not as aggressive as he is today but more technical. Vallin went the 12 rounds with Breazeale and hasn't got a single other known names on his win list. The only thing I will give Vallin is that he is not too old. But that cannot be said of Zhang.

Even Joshua's trainer Robert Garcia thinks Joshua is not ready for Wilder and needs 2 fights to get his confidence back. I believe Joshua has the physical attributes and skills to give Wilder a competitive fight and has a good chance of winning too. He has improved significantly in technical terms. I am not sure where he is mentally at this point though. He doesn't look to have that will to fight till his last breadth and give it everything. Could be because he is less confident in himself or he has earned enough that the spark has died down or just not a natural-born warrior or something else...but that is the current weakness I see in AJ.

Kownacki is garbage by the fact he struggles with bums all the time or gets knocked out by them. He's a nobody. I don't care about the propaganda machine that is PBC trying to convince me that the bum was ever even remotely close to being a legit contender. He wasn't.

Wallin gave Fury more trouble than Wilder could even begin to muster. Fury didn't struggle when at his best. he dominated every second. Wallin made it uncomfortable for the whole fight. Safari was not only dominated, but that was a version of Fury who had been out for nearly 3 years and who was horribly out of shape. But you don't even know the difference between the two versions? Do you judge shot fighters as though they were still prime or something?

You question whether AJ has a warrior mentality or not when Wilder has run away from everybody and didn't have any courage to throw punches in the rematches with Ortiz and Fury? AJ, who went to war with Wlad and did all he could against a technical marvel like Usyk? Did Holyfield lack a warrior mentality when in the first fight against Moorer due to his southpaw stance? And Moorer was a LightHeavy who was nowhere near to the skills of Usyk. Did Ali show a lack of warrior mentality against a low level fighter in Jimmy Young and need a gift on the cards? Sorry, but you're biased.

Who is talking about Wilder being next? AJ is coming off two losses. He needs to get back on the horse like everyone else is allowed to do.

It's not about who Zhang or Wallin have beaten. It's about them being fresh. They're not shot to pieces the way Helenius is. Why else do you think Helenius is retiring? They're not because they have their career ahead of them. Helenius doesn't. His is behind him.

You didn't give me your card on the Chisora fight with Helenius?

[Tom Joad]

"Kownacki is garbage by the fact he struggles with bums all the time..."


Another internet tough guy. Easy to call people names when u r sitting at a keyboard.

Kownacki looked sensational when he comprehensively beat Szpilka setting the record for most punches thrown in a heavyweight round or fight. Szpilka himself had been well ahead of Wilder on all the cards until he was caught and KO'd.

[Tom Joad]

I was wrong when at first i thought that Helenius deliberately lost, but I wasn't the only one.

Very good respectful interview:

[Zaroku]

Helenius is very similar to Gerald Washington in terms of stiffness and a jab. He'll control a rusty Wilder with it for the 1st 4 rounds. Wilder wings a couple of shots and gets rid of the 1-year rust, clips him somewhere between 5-7. Could be earlier if an overweight Helenius is there for the check.

Who is that chick in your photo

I Jack to her
yet I don’t know who she is,???

[Zelda]

Kownacki is garbage by the fact he struggles with bums all the time or gets knocked out by them. He's a nobody. I don't care about the propaganda machine that is PBC trying to convince me that the bum was ever even remotely close to being a legit contender. He wasn't.

Wallin gave Fury more trouble than Wilder could even begin to muster. Fury didn't struggle when at his best. he dominated every second. Wallin made it uncomfortable for the whole fight. Safari was not only dominated, but that was a version of Fury who had been out for nearly 3 years and who was horribly out of shape. But you don't even know the difference between the two versions? Do you judge shot fighters as though they were still prime or something?

You question whether AJ has a warrior mentality or not when Wilder has run away from everybody and didn't have any courage to throw punches in the rematches with Ortiz and Fury? AJ, who went to war with Wlad and did all he could against a technical marvel like Usyk? Did Holyfield lack a warrior mentality when in the first fight against Moorer due to his southpaw stance? And Moorer was a LightHeavy who was nowhere near to the skills of Usyk. Did Ali show a lack of warrior mentality against a low level fighter in Jimmy Young and need a gift on the cards? Sorry, but you're biased.

Who is talking about Wilder being next? AJ is coming off two losses. He needs to get back on the horse like everyone else is allowed to do.

It's not about who Zhang or Wallin have beaten. It's about them being fresh. They're not shot to pieces the way Helenius is. Why else do you think Helenius is retiring? They're not because they have their career ahead of them. Helenius doesn't. His is behind him.

You didn't give me your card on the Chisora fight with Helenius?

Zhang is fresh? You're one funny guy.

Kownacki was doing fine until Helenius derailed his career. And yes that happens. One KO or bad beating and a fighter may never be the same again. That is why people are questioning Joshua and Wilder's state of mind and where they are at. Joshua was gun-shy against Usyk. The Ruiz fight has changed Joshua as a boxer. Vlad was a different story...he was coming after retirement and a loss without any tune-up fights and he was old. It is not really an accomplishment to go to war with him for a young HW champion. Helenius retiring is not a done deal. Even Wilder talked about retirement. He was coming off back-to-back wins and it is understandable if he is heartbroken given that his road to a title shot or a big fight is not in close sight. Vallin cut Fury rather early in the fight which generated some noise but that is about it. It was not like he was winning the fight either by beating Fury or outpointing him, unless if the doctor could have stepped in and stopped. That's the highlight of his career. Let me know if he has any other accomplishments.

What exactly do you want me to say about the Helenius-Chisora fight? It was a controversial split decision and the rematch never happened. I never claimed Helenius to be some top-rated elite guy. But he is still a fair boxer. I would better his career and experience better than Zhang and Vallin combined. He ain't at his prime or young but neither is Wilder.

I am biased? against who? Fury, Wilder, Joshua, or Usyk?

Every fighter has strengths and weaknesses as a boxer and a person. I say what I see and believe which could either be positive or negative at that time. You are a known pro-Eddie and his stable and anti-Wilder on this forum.