Originally posted by Good ol' Douglas
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Fury needs to beat Usyk, Joyce and Hrgovic to get respect.
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Hrgovic is unproven fringe contender. Suggesting somebody must beat him to prove something is just laughable. Hrgovic must prove his own value first. Zhang will be his biggest fight so far.
To be honest, I believe Bakole beats Hrgovic worse than he did it with Yoka.
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Originally posted by Silence View Post
Ali was hypejob. No body shots, no inside game, no punch power. He also lost much more than just 5 fights. Even 183 cm gatekeeper Doug Jones jabbed his ears off easily.
I fear not the man who practised a thousand different kicks once but the man who practised one kick a thousand times. usain bolt is as awe inspiring than a decathleteLast edited by hugh grant; 08-06-2022, 05:10 PM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
But they say Ali was unbeatable before prison. What Ali did, he did so well boxers had no answer to the speed. He probably wasn't an all round fighter. What He did do, He did so well and that's what impressed.
I fear not the man who practised a thousand different kicks once but the man who practised one kick a thousand times. usain bolt is as awe inspiring than a decathlete
As a resume on the paper, he is still GOAT. You can rank him ATG #1 HW. But, he is overrated as a p4p fighter. I don't rank him in my top 10. History saw much more incredible fighters.
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Originally posted by Silence View Post
He was one dimensional and wasn't all around complete fighter. He had lots of weaknesses. He was very good at his own game. He fought mostly based on athleticism, he wasn't textbook fighter either.
As a resume on the paper, he is still GOAT. You can rank him ATG #1 HW. But, he is overrated as a p4p fighter. I don't rank him in my top 10. History saw much more incredible fighters.
Ask his beaten foes and they'll say he was too good for them. They probably won't mention Ali didn't punch them to the body or his defence had holes.
H2h he probably isn't bestLast edited by hugh grant; 08-06-2022, 06:36 PM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
He had lots of weakness, but when he overwhelmed opponents with his abilities, his weaknesses weren't first thing to come to mind.
Ask his beaten foes and they'll say he was too good for them. They probably won't mention Ali didn't punch them to the body or his defence had holes.
H2h he probably isn't best
Holmes would outbox him.
Wlad, Vitali and Lennox would eat him alive.
Fury would beat him in an ugly fight.
Tyson and Frazier could beat his any version.
Foreman with better ring IQ had a chance.
Norton is stylistic nightmare for him.
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Originally posted by Silence View Post
H2H he ain't even top 7-8.
Holmes would outbox him.
Wlad, Vitali and Lennox would eat him alive.
Fury would beat him in an ugly fight.
Tyson and Frazier could beat his any version.
Foreman with better ring IQ had a chance.
Norton is stylistic nightmare for him.
How could a guy who pretty much got KO'd by 185 lbs Cooper compete against modern super-heavyweights?
Look at his fight against Mildenburger, how would he deal with a slippery southpaw like Byrd?
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WBA, WBO, IBF, IBO, Ring ****zine, and lineal heavyweight champion (beat Wladimir Klitschko, then retired/vacated)
WBC, Ring ****zine, and lineal heavyweight champion (beat Deontay Wilder)
He's a legitimate two time heavyweight champion of the world. Not a titlist, not a claimant. Champion. Twice.
He's literally the only active fighter who has been heavyweight champion of the world. The previous champions (Klitschko, Lewis, Rahman, Lewis again, Briggs, Foreman, Moorer, etc) are all long retired.
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