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Can someone explain what the judges in Canelo-Bivol were doing exactly?

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    #21
    Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
    If you are going to fix the fight, why would they leave it one round short of a result for Canelo?

    You give Canelo the first 4 rounds on each card, and none of them could find 2 of the remaining 8 to slide his way as well?

    Obviously Bivol deserved the win, I just can't understand why the judges did a halfway fix. It's like they got new instructions after round 4 and decided to not fix the fight.

    Weirdest scoring I've ever seen in a big fight honestly. All 3 judges with the same exact cards too.
    I certainly can’t explain it. 118-110 with Canelo winning the 4th and the 9th. There’s absolutely a pattern of Canelo getting gift scorecards consistently.

    Makes you wonder if all Canelo opponents need to figure that they’re down 4-0 before the opening bell.
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      #22
      Originally posted by Smash View Post

      The judges did everything they could for nelo, if nelo had actually managed to make any of the last 3 rounds close they would have given him a draw.

      Difference between this and say gg1 and fights like ward kov is that a lot of people swear blind that both nelo and ward won those fights or at the very least drew, can u see anyone swearing blind that nelo won or drew that fight even if he had managed to make one of the last 3 rounds close?
      I think the official result ends up making those opinions more valid. I don't recall anyone thinking Ward won when I watched that fight live. After he officially won, those who wanted him to win are able to have more ground to stand on. On that note, let's see what happens with the opinions of Canelo fans with this fight over the next few months. They may start to say 'well the judges had it 7-5, so did I, it could have been a draw' etc.

      Canelo-GGG was a bit different because you never know what to expect in a Canelo fight with the judges. But I was truly shocked by the Ward-Kov1 scorecards.
      Last edited by Boxing-1013; 05-12-2022, 10:43 PM.
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        #23
        they were getting that bag

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          #24
          Originally posted by just the facts View Post

          I certainly can’t explain it. 118-110 with Canelo winning the 4th and the 9th. There’s absolutely a pattern of Canelo getting gift scorecards consistently.

          Makes you wonder if all Canelo opponents need to figure that they’re down 4-0 before the opening bell.
          I just can't believe he dropped an official decision. Then again, I wonder if him being a free agent promotionally will come back to haunt him. If he was 100% aligned with DAZN still (or another network) I doubt they let him drop a decision like that. As it is now, they have no real money tied up in him so they won't be pulling as many strings for him. Maybe a bit of karma

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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post

            I just can't believe he dropped an official decision. Then again, I wonder if him being a free agent promotionally will come back to haunt him. If he was 100% aligned with DAZN still (or another network) I doubt they let him drop a decision like that. As it is now, they have no real money tied up in him so they won't be pulling as many strings for him. Maybe a bit of karma
            I would really like to believe that boxing isn’t that crooked but some of the favorable scorecards (117-111 in the Lara fight, all three of the scorecards in the first ggg fight even the draw and the card ggg got, and 115-113 on all three in the Bivol) makes me highly suspect.
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              #26
              Originally posted by just the facts View Post

              I would really like to believe that boxing isn’t that crooked but some of the favorable scorecards (117-111 in the Lara fight, all three of the scorecards in the first ggg fight even the draw and the card ggg got, and 115-113 on all three in the Bivol) makes me highly suspect.
              Yeah that's why I just try to call it like I see it and rate fighters based on that. It sucks that some guys get all the cards but that's life, it ain't fair is it

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                #27
                Originally posted by just the facts View Post

                I would really like to believe that boxing isn’t that crooked but some of the favorable scorecards (117-111 in the Lara fight, all three of the scorecards in the first ggg fight even the draw and the card ggg got, and 115-113 on all three in the Bivol) makes me highly suspect.
                Out of all of those scorecards, the judge who had trout down 8-0 maybe the the worst.
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post

                  Out of all of those scorecards, the judge who had trout down 8-0 maybe the the worst.
                  I actually thought Canelo won the Trout fight with the knockdown but I get what you’re sayin. To me the worst is the draw one judge gave him vs Floyd.

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                    #29
                    Doing what they do best- trying to rob a fighter.

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                      #30
                      Judges automatically thought canelo was gonna win the rounds, afew miss punches n fan cheers = round won

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