Canelo looked worse than he did vs Mayweather

[War Room]

You just said that he fought elite fighters and lost...as long as he fought them, that all that matters.

All fighter at the mid-to- top level have a cherry pick in there. It's apart of boxing.

No I didn't lmao!

You said This is what we want all fighter to do, fight the very best whether win, lose or draw.

and I said He doesn't though, he cherry picks and this time it went wrong.

Get your head out of your boyfriends ******** before reading please. Thank you!

[BoxingIsGreat]

Alvarez has some elite fighters on his resume, I wasn't referring to Bivol tho. Bivol has to beat more than just Alvarez to be consider elite.

Elite fighters? Like who? Jacobs? At the height of his career, Jacobs was a B/B- fighter, so are Lara and GGG.
Who are the elites you speak of? I don't consider even Canelo himself 'elite.'

What's Canelo's career defining fight? There isn't one. Canelo's defining fight is a loss to Floyd.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Bivol is a good, skilled boxer, but far from elite. Neither was GGG.
Elites are in a special category of their own. You'll know when you see one.
I like how one guy described Bivol as 'genetic."

Exactly, this is why I said if Bivol was the same weight as Bud Crawford or Shakur, nobody would pick Bivol to win,

[TernceBudCharlo]

Elite fighters? Like who? Jacobs? At the height of his career, Jacobs was a B/B- fighter, so are Lara and GGG.
Who are the elites you speak of? I don't consider even Canelo himself 'elite.'

What's Canelo's career defining fight? There isn't one. Canelo's defining fight is a loss to Floyd.

Canelo doesn't have a win like Bivol does over Canelo. Bud over Postol/Porter. Usyk over Joshua. Shakur over Valdez. Or even a win like Tank had over Barrios.

[TernceBudCharlo]

That's not how boxing works...styles make fights



50/50...



I'd choose him against this version of Bud & Boo Boo. Stevenson would very special, at any weigh class.

Styles make fights and anyone who analyzes all of their styles knew that Plant/BJS/Smith were zero threat to Canelo but that Bivol was.

Maybe it's 50/50, but I still favor Beterbiev. People sleep hard on his skills. The jab, footwork and constant pressure would be an absolute nightmare for Bivol or anyone IMO.

Boo Boo is a very special fighter. It's not his fault he has been denied opportunity after opportunity to compete with the best. It's a true black eye to the sport of boxing the way they've treated that man.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I didn't say beat...I said fought.

So even if he fought 1 elite fighter (GGG as you proclaim), that's still a elite fighter.

Yes, one, and that's Floyd.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Why does anybody care that he fought Floyd or give him credit for fighting Floyd? That one always made ZERO sense to me.

EVERY fighter in boxing was dying for the opportunity to fight Floyd. They even called the Mayweather Sweapsteaks.

That's like someone winning the lottery and giving them credit for making a great and courageous investment.

[Boxing-1013]

No I'm not.

Originally posted by Queen_Leia View Post
Alvarez (like Joshua) has a BAD gas tank but he changed his style to where his opponent never exposed that. Bivol is the first fighter in 9 year to expose that because he made Alvarez fight at a pace where his gas tank let him down.

By the mid-to-late round, he was tired, going to the ropes and his punches lost steam & fatigue also affected his defense and Bivol really turned it up & started tagging him with a simple 1-2.

Brilliant game plan from Bivol...make Alvarez fight at a pace where he can't rest.

If Alvarez can fix his stamina, he'll beat Bivol in the rematch...not because he's the better fighter but he'll have enough energy to sustain throwing the eye catching punches, his defense will be a little tighter & he won't retreat the rope, thus swaying the corrupt judges.

Without fixing his stamina, Alvarez will always lose to Bivol.


Man you said this above lol. Emphasis on the bolded parts. GGG beat Canelo pretty much the same style that Bivol did - he outworked him. GGG's gas tank was what won him those fights mainly.

GGG - Canelo 1, GGG threw about 700 punches, that's about what BIvol threw vs Canelo.

[Queen_Leia]

No I didn't lmao!

You said This is what we want all fighter to do, fight the very best whether win, lose or draw.

and I said He doesn't though, he cherry picks and this time it went wrong.

Get your head out of your boyfriends ******** before reading please. Thank you!

HA HA HA HA...okay, let's go. I originally wrote:

Everyone is a C-level fighter...Jesus Christ, did Canelo fight any elite fighters beside Mayweather & Bivol?

And you responded with (note the bold):

Yes and lost every single one of them. He's a cherry pickah and if you don't know it by now you're head over heels, helplesssly in love.

Yeah we know, you suck...but it's okay, we forgive you.

[Queen_Leia]

Elite fighters? Like who? Jacobs? At the height of his career, Jacobs was a B/B- fighter, so are Lara and GGG.
Who are the elites you speak of? I don't consider even Canelo himself 'elite.'

What's Canelo's career defining fight? There isn't one. Canelo's defining fight is a loss to Floyd.

Okay then, there's Floyd Mayweather, who elite. Whether he lost or not is irrelevant as long as he fought him.