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    Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
    You're wrong that TKOs don't show on a boxer's record, they do - .

    Paul Williams wasn't in the ring with him during the Cotto fight, so that's a silly statement, unless you think Williams is God. A lot of boxers, managers, promoters, trainers and boxing experts do think that there is a high probability that he used plaster in the Cotto fight, although no one will ever know for certain.
    Here is Cotto's record from your link. Where in his record is the TKO's listed? Exactly they are included in the KO portion. Thanks for the link. When they are giving the fighter's records before a fight when has any announcer said one number for TKO's and another for KO's? Please stop you can't make this stuff up...I also didn't see an asterick next to their fight in your link. I guess they have got around to it as of today's date...LMAO.

    won 34 (KO 27) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 35
    rounds boxed 226 : KO% 77.14
    Last edited by handler000; 09-15-2009, 02:57 PM.

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      Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
      Try reading my post.

      I didn't say that making Pac the narrow favourite would be irrational, I said that making him the 2:1 favourite is irrational.

      Of course bookmakers do not set odds on the basis of who they think they will win, they set odds on the basis of who is attracting the most betting money, and only on that basis - so in those narrow commercial terms they are being rational. But in terms of what any serious boxing expert would say the odds should really be, the 2:1 odds are completely irrational, and simply reflect the fact that the betting public is often irrational.
      How is that irrational? What should the odds be 1.2:1? How much narrower would you like it to be? LMAO...But if Cotto was favorite 2:1 that would be sufficient?

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        Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
        You're wrong that TKOs don't show on a boxer's record, they do - .

        Paul Williams wasn't in the ring with him during the Cotto fight, so that's a silly statement, unless you think Williams is God. A lot of boxers, managers, promoters, trainers and boxing experts do think that there is a high probability that he used plaster in the Cotto fight, although no one will ever know for certain.

        I guess you are a God? Since you have NEVER been in the ring against Margs at anytime. A lot of experts and scientists thought it was a high probability that the world would end in 2000 but guess what we are still here. So save the statement that keeps giving back, about what a lot of boxers, managers, promoters, trainers and boxing experts say because at the end of the day they are only OPINIONS. If the boxer is not Margarito and the trainer is not Javier Capetillo than screw your high probability.. Get some REAL proof and we will revisit this discussion.
        Last edited by handler000; 09-15-2009, 02:58 PM.

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          Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
          Try reading my post.

          I didn't say that making Pac the narrow favourite would be irrational, I said that making him the 2:1 favourite is irrational.

          Of course bookmakers do not set odds on the basis of who they think they will win, they set odds on the basis of who is attracting the most betting money, and only on that basis - so in those narrow commercial terms they are being rational. But in terms of what any serious boxing expert would say the odds should really be, the 2:1 odds are completely irrational, and simply reflect the fact that the betting public is often irrational.
          Please post the link where a 'serious' boxing expert stated the 2:1 odds are completely irrational.

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            Originally posted by elchurro420 View Post
            no fighter is gonna go in the ring thinking they're gonna lose
            They used to against Tyson

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              Originally posted by xpsm24 View Post
              Who ever said Pac was gonna win!!!!To much expectations, very little reality and anyway Floyd probably wont want to fight either of them (Pac or Cotto). Also lets give JMM a chance, the boy has got it in him!! We already know he (Floyd) wont fight Cotto when he had a chance he retired and coming back to boxing he didnt even mention him he went along and picked JMM. Pac better stop Making plans cause he has a tough one in front of him that most likely he wont be able to achieve!


              so floyd trying to fight cotto at 140 dont count. and you never heard arum saying we tried to make a fight with cotto you only heard him saying margirito but thats when floyd was 147 and so was anotnio. all arum had was toni.
              you ****ers just think its easy for fighters to jsut get in the ring and fight?
              the only fighter i heard cotto call out was oscar and pac man.
              the only buisness yall know of of boxing is what you read on here
              yall know nothing of negotiations and what they have to make to pay what they need to pay and have left over in their pocket. floyd promotes himself but cotto has arum. so cotto makes no decisions for himself. arum didnt let cotto fight floyd at 140

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                Originally posted by boxer2k5 View Post
                so floyd trying to fight cotto at 140 dont count. and you never heard arum saying we tried to make a fight with cotto you only heard him saying margirito but thats when floyd was 147 and so was anotnio. all arum had was toni.
                you ****ers just think its easy for fighters to jsut get in the ring and fight?
                the only fighter i heard cotto call out was oscar and pac man.
                the only buisness yall know of of boxing is what you read on here
                yall know nothing of negotiations and what they have to make to pay what they need to pay and have left over in their pocket. floyd promotes himself but cotto has arum. so cotto makes no decisions for himself. arum didnt let cotto fight floyd at 140
                Sorry my freind but ur wrong, the cotto camp tried in 2 seprate occations to make a Floyd vs Cotto fight happen, once at 140 & one after Floyd beat DLH, but ellerbe (floyds tool) turned them down twice. U know I've noticed that most mayweather fans don't rly know **** about boxing they just go by what they hear Floyd or other idiots say. Trully pathetic

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                  I hope this fight really happens. However, i see Pacman having some issues with Cotto...hopefully both fighters prevail so a mega Pound 4 Pound showdown will go down.
                  Last edited by p4p-champ; 09-15-2009, 04:22 PM.

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                    Originally posted by yingyang View Post
                    no doubt PACMAN gonna lose this time. COTTO is true elite WW warrior
                    cotto owns the WW division. Margacheto plaster hand couldnt even knock
                    cotto out. pacman needs to bring sledge hammer to the ring to knock
                    cotto out... he has no business ****ing with the big boys at WW.
                    i just couldnt imagine what would margarito, mosley, clottey would do to
                    pacman if he fought those guys, but we will never find out coz he'll be
                    retiring soon.

                    pacman stay at 140 lbs division... thats where you belong.
                    Wherever he goes, it's Pacman turf from Flyweight to 145lbs WW! Can't you see this?!!!
                    Well, you'll be shocked come Nov. 14!!!

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                      Originally posted by handler000 View Post
                      Here is Cotto's record from your link. Where in his record is the TKO's listed? Exactly they are included in the KO portion.
                      There isn't a KO portion, learn to read. There's a column for win/loss type, and in that column it says UD, SD, MD, KO or TKO as appropriate.

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