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    #21
    Originally posted by kingstip9 View Post

    He definitely targeted the super middle weight division due to the lack of competition.
    I’d like to see him just stay there for the remainder of his career.
    Take on all mandatory challengers.

    sooner or later you run against a real challenge.

    none of this pick weak champions in different divisions just for sensationalism

    it’s what sugar ray Leonard would do (Donny lalonde etc)

    This is because they want to make every fight a PPV fight. So they gotta pull all sorts of gimmicks.

    but I’ll Always appreciate fighters like duran, hagler, monzon, Hopkins etc for facing everyone in their division instead of just 3/4 people and then like yep I’m out to face “champions” only which is such an underwhelming thing in today’s world.

    they have way to many of those titles to hand out. There’s multiple routes to a title. And clearly skill differences from champion to champion.

    If he stays in his division, sooner or later he's gonna find someone who's gonna push him like no other.

    but the way he quickly rose in weight from middleweight to supper middle then light heavyweight then possibly cruiser weight is seriously a sensationalism thing. Because I don't think it'll be weight to beat Alvarez. it'll be skill. And makabu is just another Donny Lalonde or margarito vs pacquiao type of fight. And ppl will eat it up. But whatever.

    unless your division is dog **** and the division above is where the real contenders are at (like light heavyweight)

    but Alvarez already gone too high. He should’nt go to that division now or be expected too. But when you jump a division to cruiserweight then don’t be upset if fans call for beterbiev
    - or face a load of boring mandatories - nobody is calling for Josh Taylor vs Catteral - but it's his mandatory. All you guys are sleeping on Makabu - he isn't great, never will be - but he's a solid cruiserweight. As such its a challenge. More of a challenge than Billie Joe Saunders or faded Kovalev - but yeah, Beterbiev is a bigger challenge and he is just one weight class above not 2. So Makabu is a legacy thing - 5 weight world champ. That's ok too. Imagine a boxing universe where everyone just stayed in their division to unify and defend belts - boxing would be dog-shit boring. In the last ten years the biggest shock for me was seeing Khan step up to challenge Canelo. The audacity and balls of the guy (and ******ity). After that was seeing Brook step up to fight Golovkin at a time when nobody else would even mention his name apart from Ward.

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      #22
      Originally posted by sicko View Post
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      Hell of a Year Champ! 2021 Fighter Of The Year...Not Even Close!
      Josh Taylor also won undisputed, Terence Crawford had the most impressive win beatng the great Shawn porter, Usyk moved up in weight to dethrone the great Anthony Joshua. It is very close.
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        #23
        Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
        Meanwhile Terence is fighting Thurman and Spences leftovers in a PPV fight and Charlo is somewhere drinking and smoking cigars instead of trying to fight Demetrius Andrade I thought he was Lions Only Promotions what's stopping him?
        I dont support charlo anymore because of the ducking of Andrade, Andrade is my fighter.

        Bud had the best year in 2021 by being the first to knock out Shawn Porter, a far superior fighter to anyone Canelo beat this year. Maybe Usyk too wth his win over AJ.

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          #24
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
          Usyk beating Joshua is far more impressive than Canelo beating all these no hopers.
          If he defeats AJ again and beats Fury he is already fighter of the decade and ATG. But Smith and Plant were solid undefeated champs. yet, the fact they are referred to as no-hopers speaks to Canelo's standing in the critics (and bookies) opinions.

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            #25
            Originally posted by SteveM View Post

            If he defeats AJ again and beats Fury he is already fighter of the decade and ATG. But Smith and Plant were solid undefeated champs. yet, the fact they are referred to as no-hopers speaks to Canelo's standing in the critics (and bookies) opinions.
            Smith should not have been undefeated, he lost to a bum John Ryder
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              #26
              Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post

              Josh Taylor also won undisputed, Terence Crawford had the most impressive win beatng the great Shawn porter, Usyk moved up in weight to dethrone the great Anthony Joshua. It is very close.
              Where would you put Jose Ramirez? For me he is more or less on the same level as Porter. Different styles but about same level as each other. Before he lost to Taylor all the talk was about him moving up to 147 and being a solid contender. I don't think most people are calling Joshua 'great' anymore. Those 2 defeats have tarnished his reputation a lot. If he somehow comes backs and beats Usyk though the switch is gonna flip again.

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                #27
                Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post

                Smith should not have been undefeated, he lost to a bum John Ryder
                I agree - but he was o'ff' that night. That's one thing about Bud, he's lost rounds but don't think anyone can make a case that he ever lost a fight.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SteveM View Post

                  Where would you put Jose Ramirez? For me he is more or less on the same level as Porter. Different styles but about same level as each other. Before he lost to Taylor all the talk was about him moving up to 147 and being a solid contender. I don't think most people are calling Joshua 'great' anymore. Those 2 defeats have tarnished his reputation a lot. If he somehow comes backs and beats Usyk though the switch is gonna flip again.
                  No way, Jose Ramirez almost lost to Postol, who got destroyed by Bud.

                  Bud is just on a different level and people hate on his opponents, but when you really look at the facts the truth is that bud has a good resume. I can break it down with each of his opponents.

                  Porter has proven himself time and time again by stepping in the ring with pound for pound fighters giving them all they can handle.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by SteveM View Post

                    Where would you put Jose Ramirez? For me he is more or less on the same level as Porter. Different styles but about same level as each other. Before he lost to Taylor all the talk was about him moving up to 147 and being a solid contender. I don't think most people are calling Joshua 'great' anymore. Those 2 defeats have tarnished his reputation a lot. If he somehow comes backs and beats Usyk though the switch is gonna flip again.
                    Truth be told Porter is a more skilled, tougher, hard to beat version than any fighter Canelo, Taylor, or Usyk beat this year. Its close but Porter wins. I'd go Porter, AJ, BJS in that order .
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                      #30
                      I suspect that near enough every single negative comment in this thread toward Canelo and the year he has just had will come from an American. I'm sure he will get plenty of credit from Americans but the seriously vast majority of salt will come from Americans.

                      Nobody is going to refuse to give foreigners credit as much as Americans.
                      Last edited by DaNeutral.; 01-02-2022, 04:11 PM.

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