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    #31
    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    You know what? When Loma came on the scene, they were putting him into the same category as Mayweather & Pacquiao! They had him P4P over Canelo & Crawford! Well if Loma really wanted to prove he belongs in that category, he would ask Arum for Josh Taylor! That's a legacy fight! Kambo is not!
    moving up in weight is often overrated. look at what canelo is doing: fighting old kovalev at 175 but not beterbiev, makabu but not someone better, etc...most of the time these guys dont really go outside their comfort zones. floyd, canelo and pac turned pro very young and as they grew they covered more weight divisions than loma who turned pro late. its pretty obvious loma is maxed out at 135. loma moving up outside his comfort zone would be him movin up to fight a guy like postol or something, thats what canelo is doing, that what floyd did to fight old #7 ranked hoya or old cotto and drained canelo. these guys werent dominant forces like josh taylor is at his weight. beating postol would be solid but id rather he just stay in his division and fight the guys there. something canelo should have done at 160 or 175 but ended up at 168 where no one good was. something floyd should have done at 147 but did the whole retirement, politics thing
    Last edited by daggum; 12-12-2021, 01:16 PM.

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      #32
      Maybe Loma can whoop Tanks azz if Haney and Kambosos make their fight.
      I know Tanks team won't even entertain it but why not

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        What loss? Loma can’t beat Haney unless he fights him/

        You posted all this stuff before the Teo fight. What happened?

        You should learn to evaluate Loma against the division based on his skill and attributes, not his skin color.

        He is beatable by any of the top LW’s just as he is capable of beating all the top LW’s.
        Exactly.

        I'm a fan of Loma but this guy is overhyped.

        He is grat but at this moment, he only was able to look great against B class champions.

        He only had two elite rivals (not p4p material) Salido and Teo, and he lost.

        Fans trying to excuse him in each of his L is pathetic

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          #34
          Originally posted by daggum View Post

          moving up in weight is often overrated. look at what canelo is doing: fighting old kovalev at 175 but not beterbiev, makabu but not someone better, etc...most of the time these guys dont really go outside their comfort zones. floyd, canelo and pac turned pro very young and as they grew they covered more weight divisions than loma who turned pro late. its pretty obvious loma is maxed out at 135. loma moving up outside his comfort zone would be him movin up to fight a guy like postol or something, thats what canelo is doing, that what floyd did to fight old #7 ranked hoya or old cotto and drained canelo. these guys werent dominant forces like josh taylor is at his weight. beating postol would be solid but id rather he just stay in his division and fight the guys there. something canelo should have done at 160 or 175 but ended up at 168 where no one good was. something floyd should have done at 147 but did the whole retirement, politics thing
          Stop with your lies.

          An old Kovalev is better win than Walters, small Rigo or those fighters Pedraza, etc.

          Lomachenko against Mikey García in 140 is bigger than most of the fights of his career.

          Makabu fight it's dangerous, Kovalev was doing well and was a dangerous fight.

          Lomachenko vs Mario Barrios would be better than this guy that Teo K.Od in two rounds.

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            #35
            Originally posted by daggum View Post

            moving up in weight is often overrated. look at what canelo is doing: fighting old kovalev at 175 but not beterbiev, makabu but not someone better, etc...most of the time these guys dont really go outside their comfort zones. floyd, canelo and pac turned pro very young and as they grew they covered more weight divisions than loma who turned pro late. its pretty obvious loma is maxed out at 135. loma moving up outside his comfort zone would be him movin up to fight a guy like postol or something, thats what canelo is doing, that what floyd did to fight old #7 ranked hoya or old cotto and drained canelo. these guys werent dominant forces like josh taylor is at his weight. beating postol would be solid but id rather he just stay in his division and fight the guys there. something canelo should have done at 160 or 175 but ended up at 168 where no one good was. something floyd should have done at 147 but did the whole retirement, politics thing
            Ignorant

            Loma started in 126, in pro.

            In amateur he was fighting in 135.

            Lomachenko started his career in his lowest weight : 126

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              #36
              Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post

              Exactly.

              I'm a fan of Loma but this guy is overhyped.

              He is grat but at this moment, he only was able to look great against B class champions.

              He only had two elite rivals (not p4p material) Salido and Teo, and he lost.

              Fans trying to excuse him in each of his L is pathetic
              Grj and Rigo - b class champs ? Laughable! Walters, who had viciously ko’d Darchinian and Donaire, B-class? Loma still in every P4p list - enough said.

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                #37
                Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
                Grj and Rigo - b class champs ? Laughable! Walters, who had viciously ko’d Darchinian and Donaire, B-class? Loma still in every P4p list - enough said.
                Rigo was much smaller, much more. Of fact, Rigo is fighting right now in 118 pounds and Loma in 135.

                Darchinyan was a natural 115 pounds fighter, Donaire in 126 was much more smaller, Walters only won those fights against much more smaller fighters.

                Gary is a nice win to Loma, the better win of Loma.

                Loma is a great fighters and for sure he is a P4P fighter, but he need to do bigger.things.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by patron View Post
                  What a difference with fighters such as Loma and Haney calling for the top dogs versus Tank wanting none of that smoke!
                  In reference to Tank and his b-level opponents - Andre Ward stated it perfectly lastnite - “Time to take the training wheels off”

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post

                    Rigo was much smaller, much more. Of fact, Rigo is fighting right now in 118 pounds and Loma in 135.

                    Darchinyan was a natural 115 pounds fighter, Donaire in 126 was much more smaller, Walters only won those fights against much more smaller fighters.

                    Gary is a nice win to Loma, the better win of Loma.

                    Loma is a great fighters and for sure he is a P4P fighter, but he need to do bigger.things.
                    Loma is small at 135…size disadvantage in every fight at 135. Still fought Teo close. Winning 3 titles at different weights in the number of fights he did it in was a big thing…had never been done before. What else do u want.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                      Floyd did go up and fight De La Hoya at 154! They said Oscar would be "way too big" too! How many people were supposed to be "way too big" for Paquiao? Isn't Canelo going for a title @ Cruiserweight?
                      Using your measurement of greatness would make Manny is the best fighter ever and far better than Floyd.

                      But lets be honest, you don't believe that because we both know that moving up, in and of itself, doesn't mean shyt.

                      Fighters like Oscar, Floyd and Canelo all used their "cash cow, lotto ticket" to consistently hand picked bigger opponents with easy styles or at catch weights or just plan burnt out and ripe for the picking.

                      Lomachanko doesn't have that luxury, he doesn't draw the cash and nobody really wants to fight him at 135lbs and there in lay the difference. Oscar, Floyd and Canelo never moved up because there weren't already more difficult opponents at the weight they were in, they moved up for easier fights for $$$.

                      In context, Lomachanko is 33 and fighting at 135, his max weight. At 34 Floyd was a bigger guy that was barley able to make 147, 154 was his max weight. Canelo lost his ability to shrink down and if Canelo fights until he is 34 (which he won't) Canelo will be lucky to make 175lbs....his max weight.

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