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    #91
    Originally posted by Lefty0616 View Post
    I think Canelo is making a dangerous mistake. I believe part of his reason for moving up in weight is to avoid a fight with Benavidez or GGG. He's also deluding himself. He hasn't really faced a true super middleweight with power. Kovalev doesn't count. He's shot. Perhaps he wants to test himself. But packing on muscle, to have to lose weight to finally fight a Benavidez, Charlo, Andrade, Munguia, or GGG might ravage his body like Roy Jones Jr ravaged his. He lost all of his power, coming down in weight....and was no longer ever the same dominant fighter. As great as Canelo's last couple of years have been, his next few years may be disastrous...by deciding to challenge the heavier divisions.
    I hear what you are saying. I agree he is bypassing certain name fighters by getting away with it by jumping in weight to make up for it. Makabu is not a large cruiser. He’s slow and possibly chinny. He is a southpaw and willing to throw though. I think every fighter should have to get on the scale on fight night for a lot of reasons, if not just for the fans. Canelo doesn’t want anyone to know what he weighs in ring, that way he can manipulate the narrative. I don’t expect him to be outweighed by 30lbs in the Makabu fight or anything. I don’t expect Canelo to weigh close to 200lbs in ring either. Boxing loves debating about weights though as they are numbers you can print or speculate on. Speed and skill will be his asset. I don’t think Makabu has a great chin or anything. This is a very calculated option, still I hope it’s closer than we expect for once.

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      #92
      Originally posted by TreyShaw View Post
      Oh damn so he’ll give away 20lbs ****!!!!
      Slurp slurp save some of that ginger schlong for someone else dude

      Hes even trying to sell this no hoper to us now...coming out promoting makabu with smoke and mirrors


      Makabu is useless

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        #93
        Originally posted by Blond Beast View Post

        I hear what you are saying. I agree he is bypassing certain name fighters by getting away with it by jumping in weight to make up for it. Makabu is not a large cruiser. He’s slow and possibly chinny. He is a southpaw and willing to throw though. I think every fighter should have to get on the scale on fight night for a lot of reasons, if not just for the fans. Canelo doesn’t want anyone to know what he weighs in ring, that way he can manipulate the narrative. I don’t expect him to be outweighed by 30lbs in the Makabu fight or anything. I don’t expect Canelo to weigh close to 200lbs in ring either. Boxing loves debating about weights though as they are numbers you can print or speculate on. Speed and skill will be his asset. I don’t think Makabu has a great chin or anything. This is a very calculated option, still I hope it’s closer than we expect for once.
        This fight may very well be an easy fight for Canelo, but to go up in weight and then come down to fight the good smaller middleweights may prove to be damaging to Canelo's body. I'm not saying it will be damaging, but there is that risk that it could be. I don't think it's worth the risk. Sure, he can make history....but what if he becomes a shell of himself afterwards?

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          #94
          Originally posted by Lefty0616 View Post

          This fight may very well be an easy fight for Canelo, but to go up in weight and then come down to fight the good smaller middleweights may prove to be damaging to Canelo's body. I'm not saying it will be damaging, but there is that risk that it could be. I don't think it's worth the risk. Sure, he can make history....but what if he becomes a shell of himself afterwards?
          I don’t see him coming back down to MW though. Depending how the fight goes, and if he wins he may want to defend the belt. I could see him dropping back to LH, and if he’s to be believed that he will only be 180lbs in the ring ( for his cruiser fight ) then that’s not really a drop at all. The thing is I wish all fighters were forced to be weighed on fight night. The fans would love it. It would help the sport assess things. I understand how keeping it secret let’s a fighter come up with their own narrative and give out their own numbers to be believed or not. If you have nothing to hide then why not be transparent? The fans want to know. Course this is boxing and the fans come last. I’m no pro boxer, and fighting is its very own thing. Still I just don’t understand this “mythos” of coming back down in weight being so damaging to your body when we are talking about coming down from a weight that’s well above “normal” or homeostasis? Like I’ve lifted weights since I was fifteen. At times ive bulked up so much beyond my normal baseline, and not just as a fat slob, and if anything it was easy to come back down. I never felt like I was damaging my body as long as it wasent a crash diet and was done right. Your body wants to go back to what feels best. Canelo may weigh 180lbs or close to it in the ring right now. 12lbs is a decent rehydration but it’s by no way unheard of. So maybe he just won’t have to cut at all. Maybe ad a pound of two of muscle at most. If losing muscle and weight, especially from a size that is beyond your “normal” level was so hard or detrimental then why isn’t everyone walking around at their biggest and most muscular? It’s not the same as trying to make weight when you are growing naturally and are lean and bone dry and still have lbs to go. I just think the Roy Jones excuse has no real merit but yet stuck around cause he was such a good fighter and it was hard to believe. If Canelo got up to the size of a cruiser that cut to make 200lbs and was something like 210lbs in the ring and the same body fat he’s shown all career…then yes it would take him a good while to drop it off slow and steady. Still it would take him a long time to add that much muscle too. Sorry for the long post. We will see. We would know more if we knew in ring weights, body fat % etc.

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