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    #51
    Originally posted by TheGreat1
    I don't blame Blame Bryd, He is the Champ, why should he have to go to Germany to fight WK??? It's a lose lose situation for him, if he wins it's because WK has no confidence or chin, and has lost 2 of his last 4 fights, and should have lost to touch of sleep. wlad should not be getting a shoot anyway, this is BS, Bryd should atleast be able to fight in his home. Before you all attack me keep in mind i am not nor have ever been a bryd fan, i just don't think u should treat a champ like this, Bryd fights the toughest fight out there, hasn't ducked anyone except Toney, who is the best in the Div.
    It's really not about being champ, and having the final say where the fight should be held. Sure, in a perfect world it might be, but the simple fact of the matter is, it's a decision about money. In Germany, the fight between Vlad and Byrd would make much more moolah than it would in the US, and for Byrd to have his biggest payday ever, the fight must be held in Germany. Any title fight of his in the US would probably generate about half the revenue. He bitches about the money, but doesn't want to fight where the paydays are bigger. As for fair judges....why worry about the judges anyway? Byrd won't last 12 rounds against Klitchko again. He's several years older and slower. He's still slick, but he's no longer quite as quick, and I see him being KO'd in 9 or 10.

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      #52
      Originally posted by TheGreat1
      i would like to see VK vs Ruiz and brewster vs bryd then the winners fight so we can have 1 champ. then Toney vs. Rahman for the #1 contender. could this ever happen?
      I think everybody agree that Ruiz, Byrd and especialy Brewster had a very poor performance in their defences and everyone from them had at least one or two gift decisions and very good luck.

      So what is the point right now to chose undisputed HW champion form guys who are gifted to keep the belts?

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        #53
        "Klitschko camp didn't do anything but make it better for Byrd, by giving a rematch in the contract. Don King asked Byrd what he wanted in order to make this fight happen. Byrd told King more money, so King boosted the amount from 2.5 to 3.5, by far his biggest pay day. After he did that Byrd straight out didn't want the fight"

        There is obvious that Byrd don't want to fight WK. He have too much to lose. It is obvious that he is simply afraid of fighting WK because he lost badly the first time. Even if WK is shot the bad beating is almost certain againg - this would stop his carrier pernamently. The remach is just one more nail to the coffin (probably the third ass whuppin in a row).

        The much prospect way is to avoid WK and have much easer defence
        (this is certain 2.5 M$) and possibly the unification fight (with a good luck this can bring additional ~ 4 M$). Even if he lose in unification fight then nobody will tell that he lost to shot and undeserving WK.

        Byrd never gave the statement that he would fight WK in US with a lesser amount of money (2.5 M$) and without remach (the basic package he offer for other contenders). So anything Byrd tell about not fighting WK (not fighting in Germany, better money, rematch, fighting more deserving one, renting anty-poisoning mask from M. Jackson, bending one Klitchko's hand during the fight) - they are just empty excuses to avoid the fight - fight which probably end his carrier.

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          #54
          byrd and rock are both pretty pathetic.... as much crap as they talk, they're both balking over the biggest purses they can get right now... like they say, talk is cheap...

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            #55
            the way i see it is like this...

            Don King was a big part of making Byrd what he is today. Byrd does have great boxing skills and he did fight his way to where he is, BUT there are other boxers just like him w/o a title because they never gave it over to Mr. Don King.

            now we're at a point where Byrd is questioning DK's confidence in him. I think Byrd's confidence in DK is also shaky.

            all this talk about corruption and the odds when fighting in Germany.. well I'll tell you this.. IF there is corruption in Germany, then there is ONE thing that will help you still succeed and avoid being ripped off... and that one things is DON KING ... IF and ONLY IF he still wants you around to use you up for his own gain.

            Byrd hasn't convincingly won a fight recently... he has a choice ahead of him... risk loosing (probable) to someone and only getting 1 mil or so OR taking the most cash he can and realizing that DK might just be done using him up, in which case he'll be thrown away and have to rely on what he's already made.

            I agree that he is a champ and that he should have power to call shots... but this is in a fake world with faries and magic potions. In the real world, you're only around as champ for as long as you're either well liked or as long as you can make someone else big money. and how does this scenario look for Byrd?

            He needs to cash out, realize that the competition will only get harder, and take a rematch with WK to give it his all, while cashing out at the same time to live the rest of his life in comfort. At least then he can say he didn't leave things unfinished like Lenox Lewis did (opinional obviously)

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              #56
              Originally posted by Rockin1
              To enayze,
              Would you also consider Jack Dempsey to be a *****. We all know who he wouldnt fight. And it was not even that he didnt like the contract or location. SO Dempsey must be a ***** as well?.........Rockin'
              No I would consider Dempsey racist.

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                #57
                Byrd is not taking the fight because he does not like the conditions. Dempsey wouldnt take the fight because he did not want to fight a negro. The fact is that they both hold the belt and they both dont want to fight somebody for certain reasons. So if dempsey is called racist instead of a ***** than I would call Byrd a business man instead of a *****.........Rockin'

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Rockin1
                  Byrd is not taking the fight because he does not like the conditions. Dempsey wouldnt take the fight because he did not want to fight a negro. The fact is that they both hold the belt and they both dont want to fight somebody for certain reasons. So if dempsey is called racist instead of a ***** than I would call Byrd a business man instead of a *****.........Rockin'
                  What's the conditions that you think he doesnt like? Getting his ass brutally beat again?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Enayze
                    What's the conditions that you think he doesnt like? Getting his ass brutally beat again?
                    The conditions that Byrd doesn't like are that he doesn't want to fight someone who has a very good chance of beating him and taking his belt away.

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                      #60
                      i think Byrdy is also hoping the Toney fight with ruiz will fall through and he can get Toney, or maybe Byrdy is gonna stall things until that after Toney wins the fight but gets robbed by the judges (agianst ruiz) because he has said in several interviews that he wants Toney. Byrdy needs to hold on to the IBF belt because without it he's screwed

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