WHO would YOU sign with?

[warp1432]

Dude, yes really. If you look into audiences like the Mosley-Mayorga card, they don't sell out venues. A lot of their guys fight in front of half-empty audiences. Top Rank has been making stars like Oscar de la Hoya, Miguel Cotto, Manny Pacquiao, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales for years.

Name a single SUPERSTAR that Golden Boy has made.

Trust me, I've seen all of the big time promoters in action, Don King, Top Rank, Golden Boy, Dibella Entertainment, no one does it like Top Rank.

And that's because Golden Boy doesn't make a huge effort to sell cards that are normally based out off of normal HBO money. They don't need to make bank on those.

Even though, that's changed you could argue since Diaz has sold out a lot of his fights. GBP is becoming smarter with location of fights, which attracts more fans.

You're also basing off 25 years off promotion and experience compared to...6 or so GBP has had. GBP hasn't had the chance to really have any key prospects.

Oh and Manny Pacquiao really isn't a "Bob Arum" upbringing. He was first put on the map and then adored when he crushed Marco Antonio Barrera. He wasn't with Arum then.

Arum normally matches his prospects with better competition, but that is based off of 25 years of experience, not 6 like DLH has. DLH mostly has bigger names for now, but is slowly raising prospects with events such as his fight night club.

But in terms of promoting a big time fight, GBP has made extra strides the last two years in order to take advantage. They promoted the **** out of lesser cards in Marquez-Casamayor, Lightweight Lightning, etc.

They are putting Marquez-Mayweather in theaters. They've advanced. Also they've become smarter with fight locations and fight cards. They're starting to make better quality undercards and match ups.

[ReadyUp]

You'd have to say GBP because of all the HBO dates but....I've always felt Main Event's showed their fighters alot of love and respect.

[warp1432]

By the way, the "big time fights" for Top Rank fighters now normally involve a GBP fighter....

[Mr. Ryan]

By the way, the "big time fights" for Top Rank fighters now normally involve a GBP fighter....

And vice versa...

[warp1432]

And vice versa...

Way to ignore all my other points lol

[Mr. Ryan]

And that's because Golden Boy doesn't make a huge effort to sell cards that are normally based out off of normal HBO money. They don't need to make bank on those.

Even though, that's changed you could argue since Diaz has sold out a lot of his fights. GBP is becoming smarter with location of fights, which attracts more fans.

You're also basing off 25 years off promotion and experience compared to...6 or so GBP has had. GBP hasn't had the chance to really have any key prospects.

Oh and Manny Pacquiao really isn't a "Bob Arum" upbringing. He was first put on the map and then adored when he crushed Marco Antonio Barrera. He wasn't with Arum then.

Arum normally matches his prospects with better competition, but that is based off of 25 years of experience, not 6 like DLH has. DLH mostly has bigger names for now, but is slowly raising prospects with events such as his fight night club.

But in terms of promoting a big time fight, GBP has made extra strides the last two years in order to take advantage. They promoted the **** out of lesser cards in Marquez-Casamayor, Lightweight Lightning, etc.

They are putting Marquez-Mayweather in theaters. They've advanced. Also they've become smarter with fight locations and fight cards. They're starting to make better quality undercards and match ups.

I'm aware Pacquiao wasn't with Arum at the time, but in the meantime since then he has gone from being the biggest sports figure in the Philippines to one of the biggest on the planet. We both know Murad Muhammad wasn't going to get Pacquiao on CNN.

Diaz would sell out in Houston if he was promoted by me. He was already the biggest ticket seller in the region when he was with Main Events.

We can factor in the experience because the average fighter doesn't have 20 years to wait while Golden Boy catches up in experience to what TR is doing.

I'm just saying, are you really "promoting" if most of your money comes from TV and only a minor percentage comes from the gate? What happened to the days when promoters promoted?

[Sin City]

You'd have to say GBP because of all the HBO dates but....I've always felt Main Event's showed their fighters alot of love and respect.

Main Events tried to rush their fighters to the top too quick though.
That's why it was ran into the ground. Fernando Vargas in your avy is a prime example of this.
Look where they are at now.. They have Adamek & Joel Julio, Lorenzo & Crawford & that's it.

[Mr. Ryan]

Way to ignore all my other points lol

See above post

[supRa]

dude cmon golden boy promtions has hbo on its hands...

[The Gambler1981]

Going forward I would take Golden Boy, I think they are positoned better with ESPN and HBO to really get the important TV dates. Top Rank knows how to build guys but if you can't get them on national tv as much and mostly through small PPV that is really limiting how big they can get. Bob Arum knows how to play the game though, I just fail to see how Top Rank is going to keep ahead of Golden Boy in building younger fighters if Golden Boy has the market cornered on TV dates.

Also with The Ring and thering.com they can use that to show lower profile cards on the internet to help build guys, I do not see how Top Rank is countering that.