At what point will Floyd Mayweather get the credit he deserves?

[Johnny2x2x]

Manny isn’t in the discussion. He had a great career and won a solid 62 of his 72 fights. But he’s being compared to a guy who won 50 of his 50 fights and beat him head to head. The discussion is over. Mayweather was the best of his era.

[hugh grant]

May is older
Operative word being FORMER

SRR, floyd, SRL or any other WW at 43 would be underdog against u gas, and fighting ugas would be deemed risky. But Pac who was favourite fighting u gas who was underdog isn't risky?
The standards for Pac are higher, you've made a case for Pac being GOAT. You've only yourself to blame, it's you making Pac look this good.

[BodyBagz]

The definition of RISK TAKING and confidence building is fighting guys like -
Larios (BFD), Diaz(BFD), Shot Clottey, Shot DLH*, Cotto*, Shot Margarito*, Shot Algieri*, Life and Death with JMM (teehee), Shot Broner, Shot Lucas, Shot Rios, Shot Mosley, pillow puncher Vargas and pillow puncher Bradley (3x), HORN ( ).....

Let's not even mention his shlt prior to moving to WW.
The DLH and Cotto that May fought would have KILLED Pac
Nelo was never an option above 145 for Pac

Basic AF Ugas is now considered a future HOFer !!!!

[BodyBagz]

SRR, floyd, SRL or any other WW at 43 would be underdog against u gas, and fighting ugas would be deemed risky. But Pac who was favourite fighting u gas who was underdog isn't risky?
The standards for Pac are higher, you've made a case for Pac being GOAT. You've only yourself to blame, it's you making Pac look this good.

Shot May would have schooled basic assed Ugas

[True-Boxing-Fan]

He is the greatest fighter of this era, usually true greatness doesn’t get the respect it deserves until it’s over.

Floyd is retired now, seems happier than ever (which is great to see) yet he still gets hate from all angles. True fight fans do appreciate him but like most all time greats it can be decades before they truly get the respect they deserve.

For me, Floyd is the greatest of my era (I am early 30’s,) he is a wizard in the ring and it really annoys me when people disrespect him. He has done so much for the sport

When do you think he will get the credit he deserves?

I love your troll threads.

[Stuntman Mike]

Shame Pac decided not to test your warped theory

Pac opted out

Do you simp around all day doing what your equals tell you to do ...what kind of a man would pacquiao be to succumb to all Floyd's demands which were unheard of at the time...
the guy has pride expecting pacquiao to buckle to the first of Floyd's demands would only show weakness and put him In a position of being bombarded by other ridiculous demands

Pacquiao was willing to fight with similar stipulations mayweathers previous opponents had

[Stuntman Mike]

The definition of RISK TAKING and confidence building is fighting guys like -
Larios (BFD), Diaz(BFD), Shot Clottey, Shot DLH*, Cotto*, Shot Margarito*, Shot Algieri*, Life and Death with JMM (teehee), Shot Broner, Shot Lucas, Shot Rios, Shot Mosley, pillow puncher Vargas and pillow puncher Bradley (3x), HORN ( ).....

Let's not even mention his shlt prior to moving to WW.
The DLH and Cotto that May fought would have KILLED Pac
Nelo was never an option above 145 for Pac

Basic AF Ugas is now considered a future HOFer !!!!

If all those fighters were shot with minimal losses then you must agree that castillo was shot to pieces with his 4 losses before he stepped in the ring and put a beat down on floyd

[Toyman]

Would you suggest Ray Leonard wasn't in haglers class?? Leonard waited it out until hagler slowed down and even then the win is controversial

It's similar stuff we don't take away from hagler when he was obviously past his prime I that close defeat

Mayweather was hurt twice against pacquiao that's hardly cruise control my friend

Let's expand upon this a little further.

Spoon's thread provides links to round-by-round analysis videos clearly demonstrating that manny outlanded floyd in most of the rounds. Not only did manny land more punches - his punches were also much harder. Was manny ever wobbled in the fight? No. Was floyd wobbled? Yes.

In the 5 years that thread has existed, have there been any convincing arguments to suggest these videos are wrong? No - therefore, we have to conclude that manny did in fact outland floyd by a significant margin and also land more effective punches on average.


Most unbiased, logical people would conclude that getting outlanded by your opponent by 40% does not qualify as cruise-control.

Then let's also consider the following:

Floyd had to go out of his way to pay for the testing out of his own pocket so that he could get favorable testing. This had to be done so that he could use PEDS / other illegal substances. We know for a fact that he had to receive a retroactive TUE for illegal IVs, which is definitely not normal. If floyd was not paying usada himself, would he have received a TUE? Probably not, most likely he would have been labeled a blatant drug cheat and his "win" would have been turned into a no-contest (or a loss, considering he actually lost the fight in most peoples' eyes).

So on the one hand, he was outboxed and outlanded in the fight. On the other hand, he had to go out of his way to fund USADA and then damage his own body with PEDS/illegal substances to the point that 5 years later he got beat up by a youtuber. I too am puzzled as to how floyd's performance could be synonymous with cruise control.

[BodyBagz]

If all those fighters were shot with minimal losses then you must agree that castillo was shot to pieces with his 4 losses before he stepped in the ring and put a beat down on floyd

Only a certified, Pac fan club member can claim that line up as anything other than deplorable.
I guarantee you this, had May fought those same guys when Pac fought them,you fan bois would be lambasting May for picking on shot no hopers (some with a clause attached). His fellow countrymen was SHOCKED Pac was ready to fight Spence without a clause. Hiss own countrymen call him the catch weight king.

The Cotto May beat would have humiliated Pac. Probably retire him on the spot.

[BodyBagz]

Do you simp around all day doing what your equals tell you to do ...what kind of a man would pacquiao be to succumb to all Floyd's demands which were unheard of at the time...
the guy has pride expecting pacquiao to buckle to the first of Floyd's demands would only show weakness and put him In a position of being bombarded by other ridiculous demands

Pacquiao was willing to fight with similar stipulations mayweathers previous opponents had

Pac lucked out by not fighting prime Rios and prime Broner and prime Lucas and prime Clottey and prime Algieri and prime HORN (oops)......stars (sometimes *'s) lined up perfectly. Who in the hell other than #3ATG can topple such future HOFers ???

Nothing but pure risk taking.