Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Coach Explains Why Boxer Has Surpassed Floyd Mayweather

[Amir Imam]

LOL! @ These idiots.

Do you know what USADA is? Yeah, the company who regulated this fight ya dipshxt

controversy emerged when it was revealed that prior to the fight, Mayweather had been administered fluids cleared by the (USADA) through a retroactive "the****utic use exemption"—an exemption, however, not authorized by the (NSAC).

Get a life, baseless, useless, biased twit

You get a life bum. This thread is old. You’re responding now because you’re mad he lost again for the 8th time.

Four questions later, Koncz listed the following medications that Pacquiao was taking: "Lidocaine, Bupivicaine, Celestone(banned), PRP and Toradol."


50-0 Deal With It.

[Oregonian]

So, let me get this straight........

You think that Manny asked for a numbing shot for the shoulder ahead of time to have a reason for an excuse and then got rotator cuff surgery after the fight to make it more believable?

You folks seriously need to take a long look at yourselves and your lives.

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Way to ignore the examples I gave you but in simple terms, why didn’t Manny pull out of the fight?
Why fight with an injury?
why wait until you lost to claim injury?

Sane case with Ugas. Manny trained for 10 weeks and was fine. He gets beat and claims leg cramps. Never once during the rounds did we hear him say anything about his legs.

[aboutfkntime]

Those names are mainly there bc of name recognition.

Canelo- iss a good win. Even though me personally, didn't think he had enough ring experience for Floyd.

JMM- who was. The lightweight champ. Before and after his fight with Floyd. The size difference was apparent visually. Floyd toyed with the smaller Marquez. That was a great win,, top tier stuff?

Manny- lol again. Not gonna say Manny won, but this is a controversial type win. But ok.

For me- MAB 1-. Manny was the under dog here. Barrera was the Lineal champ at the time. Manny did dominate this fight.

Ledwaba-. Short notice fight with someone who was top of the division. Manny destroyed Ledwaba (no offense, RIP).

Morales 11-. Revenge for losing to another great boxer. Redemption by tko.

who the fcuk is Ledwaba you fool?


if you think beating Ledwaba is even close to beating Canelo, Pacquiao, or Marquez... then you are just another nose-picking fool


Canelo, Pacquiao, and Marquez... are ATG's... Ledwaba, is not !


don't be ridiculous... you should have ridden with Cotto, like I said... but of course, I would have immediately reminded you that Cotto was...

1) not a ATG...
2) weight-drained at 145...
3) in the worst position of his entire career, after losing to that glove-loading scumbag Margarito...
4) without a trainer, following his split with uncle and career-long coach/trainer Evangelista Cotto


beating Ledwaba is not even better than beating the undefeated killer Corrales... up your game son, wtf ?


and...

1) old Morales exposed Pacquiao in their first fight, Pac took a LOSS from Morales LMAO...
2) no way is Morales better than Canelo, Pacquiao, Marquez... you are dreaming son
3) Barrera is close to Marquez... but, he is not better than Marquez... so, NO


NOT... EVEN... CLOSE


not only did you badly lose part 1 of our debate... you shot yourself in the foot by mentioning Ledwaba


right, part 2... you remove Morales, Barrera, and Ledwaba (lol) from the pool... I will remove Canelo, Pacquiao, and Marquez, from the pool... and we will debate the next level down


name the 3 best Pacquiao wins other than... Morales, Barrera, and Ledwaba... go !


waiting...








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[aboutfkntime]

This is the original quote, I was asking you about. Look at #1. Who are the multiple wins on Floyd's resume that is not on Manny's?
Canelo for argument sakes I'll give you. But JMM is on Manny's resume last I checked.

And now that's sounds like fun doing a comparison but you adding Manny to go up against his own resume?! Bro,. I don't get it it's too early on a monday for that kind of logic.

1) FACT: the first two fights are HIGHLY debatable... many knowledgeable observers awarded either 1, or both, of those fights to Marquez... including admitted pac-tard Max Kellerman, who insists that Marquez won the first two fights... and he also insists that Marquez won the 3rd fight

2) Marquez won the third fight, and he decapitated Pacquiao in the 4th... Ben Delgado, who is Pacquiao's original trainer... watched that fight with 2 other knowledgeable pac-tards, Ronnie Nathanielz, and a licensed referee... ALL THREE said that Marquez won the fight... pacfans were removing their pac-jackets before leaving the arena out of respect for Marquez... and Bob Arum apologized to Marquez after the fight saying "it's just business"... FACT: Pacquiao could NEVER distance himself from Marquez, despite having 4 attempts

3) Mayweather schooled Marquez, he completely out-classed him... Pacquiao never came close to that kind of victory, if he even won at all

that fight 100% counts... like I told you, FACT: that win by Mayweather... is better than any win on Pacquiao's record


FACT: Mayweather has (at least) 3 wins, that are better than any win on Pacquiao's record








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[clmags12]

who the fcuk is Ledwaba you fool?


if you think beating Ledwaba is even close to beating Canelo, Pacquiao, or Marquez... then you are just another nose-picking fool


Canelo, Pacquiao, and Marquez... are ATG's... Ledwaba, is not !


don't be ridiculous... you should have ridden with Cotto, like I said... but of course, I would have immediately reminded you that Cotto was...

1) not a ATG...
2) weight-drained at 145...
3) in the worst position of his entire career, after losing to that glove-loading scumbag Margarito...
4) without a trainer, following his split with uncle and career-long coach/trainer Evangelista Cotto


beating Ledwaba is not even better than beating the undefeated killer Corrales... up your game son, wtf ?


and...

1) old Morales exposed Pacquiao in their first fight, Pac took a LOSS from Morales LMAO...
2) no way is Morales better than Canelo, Pacquiao, Marquez... you are dreaming son
3) Barrera is close to Marquez... but, he is not better than Marquez... so, NO


NOT... EVEN... CLOSE


not only did you badly lose part 1 of our debate... you shot yourself in the foot by mentioning Ledwaba


right, part 2... you remove Morales, Barrera, and Ledwaba (lol) from the pool... I will remove Canelo, Pacquiao, and Marquez, from the pool... and we will debate the next level down


name the 3 best Pacquiao wins other than... Morales, Barrera, and Ledwaba... go !


waiting...



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So I see your disrespect goes out to many fighters and not just Manny.

You are not analyzing the fights, the importance of the fight to history and what titles maybe on the line.. only who's better, he can't beat him! Type argument. It's cool. I mainly troll, but your logic won't be geared towards discussing anything.

Iam not wasting any time with you. You win.

[clmags12]

1) FACT: the first two fights are HIGHLY debatable... many knowledgeable observers awarded either 1, or both, of those fights to Marquez... including admitted pac-tard Max Kellerman, who insists that Marquez won the first two fights... and he also insists that Marquez won the 3rd fight

2) Marquez won the third fight, and he decapitated Pacquiao in the 4th... Ben Delgado, who is Pacquiao's original trainer... watched that fight with 2 other knowledgeable pac-tards, Ronnie Nathanielz, and a licensed referee... ALL THREE said that Marquez won the fight... pacfans were removing their pac-jackets before leaving the arena out of respect for Marquez... and Bob Arum apologized to Marquez after the fight saying "it's just business"... FACT: Pacquiao could NEVER distance himself from Marquez, despite having 4 attempts

3) Mayweather schooled Marquez, he completely out-classed him... Pacquiao never came close to that kind of victory, if he even won at all

that fight 100% counts... like I told you, FACT: that win by Mayweather... is better than any win on Pacquiao's record


FACT: Mayweather has (at least) 3 wins, that are better than any win on Pacquiao's record








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The JMM/PAC fights all were classic fights. Juan is Manny's true rival and should be remembered as such.
I Agree depending on who is watching it could go either way. But Manny getting the nod in the second was also redemption for the scoring error in the first.

Floyd's toying off Marquez is listed as a great win for Floyd. Sorry, can't convince me of that.

[Roadblock]

So I see your disrespect goes out to many fighters and not just Manny.

You are not analyzing the fights, the importance of the fight to history and what titles maybe on the line.. only who's better, he can't beat him! Type argument. It's cool. I mainly troll, but your logic won't be geared towards discussing anything.

Iam not wasting any time with you. You win.

Mate you don't know a thing about boxing, you're a fan, a product of hype and having a hero thing you slurp what the hype feeds you, Mannys game is up 8 losses and 25 excuses, his resume is full of holes if you know how to really analyze a resume and to do hat you got to know boxing, you don't even know the difference with fight night weight and weight 30 hrs before a fight.

[Roadblock]

The JMM/PAC fights all were classic fights. Juan is Manny's true rival and should be remembered as such.
I Agree depending on who is watching it could go either way. But Manny getting the nod in the second was also redemption for the scoring error in the first.

Floyd's toying off Marquez is listed as a great win for Floyd. Sorry, can't convince me of that.

Well it sure as hell convinced Marquez as he says Floyd is the best he ever fought, want more Juan never at any stage asked for a rematch with Floyd, could be Nacho saying Floyd is from another planet and you cant beat him with a stick.

Do you know Juan weighed the same fightnight being schooled by Floyd and KOing Manny 150lbs.

Go start the thread I asked you to start comparing their resumes head to head lol , Manny fans are delusional.

[clmags12]

Mate you don't know a thing about boxing, you're a fan, a product of hype and having a hero thing you slurp what the hype feeds you, Mannys game is up 8 losses and 25 excuses, his resume is full of holes if you know how to really analyze a resume and to do hat you got to know boxing, you don't even know the difference with fight night weight and weight 30 hrs before a fight.

I don't care if you say I don't know ****. Considering how much there is to learn.

So far up to this point, the argument of who is Floyds best fights are just for the name recognition. Neither of you may think 2nd tier wins don't matter, they do. Especially, if Lineal titles are involved. Saying a Floyd JMM win is more significant than say Genaro Lineal win, is kind of ignorant.

You guys are just fountains of knowledge bro.

[Roadblock]

I don't care if you say I don't know ****. Considering how much there is to learn.

So far up to this point, the argument of who is Floyds best fights are just for the name recognition. Neither of you may think 2nd tier wins don't matter, they do. Especially, if Lineal titles are involved. Saying a Floyd JMM win is more significant than say Genaro Lineal win, is kind of ignorant.

You guys are just fountains of knowledge bro.

What criteria is your more significant win, what is that comment based on,,,,, it seems to me that when a guy goes life and death 4 times and gets put to sleep with the winner stating the best fighter he ever fought was Floyd Mayweather, what does that mean to you?

Did you answer me when I asked what it meant that Floyd beat an 18lb bigger version of Oscar than what Manny beat what does that mean to you?

What do you think of Manny having an excuse for every loss he has, do you believe the excuses given?

What do you think about calling Cotto out at 154, saying no fight when Cotto said no CW, then saying Uri Foreman was too big for a 154 title challenge and then go and fight a 2 yr out Margarito after buying him a license to box in Texas for a 154 title at 150lbs, is that the kinda of legacy you talking about, Margarito was the same physical dimension as Forman who was to big.

Do you think saying no fight with Cotto at 154 shows that the 145 win over was because of weight not because he can beat Cotto?