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So if Floyd simply destroys JMM, does he have the upper hand on Pacquiao?

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    #11
    Welp, it won't take Floyd 5-6 plus years with a rubbermatch to whoop JMM's ass decisively . That pretty much says it all.

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      #12
      Originally posted by larrysmith View Post
      they wont give floyd the credit he deserves..but in the same breath they'll say pacman can beat floyd
      Who gives a **** if people think Pac can beat Floyd, as long as Vegas makes Pac the favourite is all thats important

      Floyd as an underdog would be interesting

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        #13
        Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
        WW was Oscar's best weight, if I'm not mistaken. He looked very good at 150 months prior. Not Pac's fault he didn't rehydrate (though he did have IV marks) enough afterward.


        So was Oscar drained when he fought Pac or not?

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          #14
          Originally posted by Ishy Aytan View Post
          So was Oscar drained when he fought Pac or not?
          Reading comprehension not one of your strong suits?

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            #15
            Originally posted by Ishy Aytan View Post
            And i dont remember me saying Pac didnt fight Hatton at Hattons best weight. Read it again and you'll find that i'm talking about Oscar.

            Did Pac fight Oscar at Oscars best weight???????????????????????
            But yet you include Hatton in the argument....

            Originally posted by Ishy Aytan View Post
            Floyd and his fans argue that he beat him at 154, his very best weight. But after Pac beat Oscar and Hatton, apparently Floyds credentials went down because Pac did a better job on both of them than him.

            So why don't we review this then

            PBF and Pac will have fought 3 common opponents, DLH, Hatton and JMM

            PBF fought DLH at his "best weight", but made Hatton AND JMM come out of THEIR best weight.

            Pac fought DLH @ 147 making him come down from 154, but at the same time going UP in weight. Pac also fought Hatton at 140 which is Hatton's best weight and fought JMM at HIS best weight.

            So even if you remove DLH from Pac's victories, Pac would have still fought 2 common opponents at their best weight.

            But I'm sure you guys will find a way to spin that too.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Ishy Aytan View Post
              Of course the Pac fans will argue that Pac beat him at his very best weight. But this is the same arguement that the Floyd fans use when questioning Pacs victories over Oscar.

              Floyd and his fans argue that he beat him at 154, his very best weight. But after Pac beat Oscar and Hatton, apparently Floyds credentials went down because Pac did a better job on both of them than him.

              But can Floyd use the same arguement if he destroys JMM? Obviously people will critisize the victory, but is it right for people to go crazy over Pacs victory over Oscar, in which he was clearly weight drained and for those who dont believe he was they should compare the photos from the pac weigh in to another at any fight at 154.

              Now my question is, will Floyd's credentials over Pac increase if Floyd beats or destroys JMM?
              no JMM is a midget / tune up for floyd. floyd is supposed to smash jmm into tiny bits.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
                WW was Oscar's best weight, if I'm not mistaken. He looked very good at 150 months prior. Not Pac's fault he didn't rehydrate (though he did have IV marks) enough afterward.
                Probably the worst post I have ever read. WW was Oscar's best weight? Well, perhaps in 1999 but not 2009.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by larrysmith View Post
                  they wont give floyd the credit he deserves..but in the same breath they'll say pacman can beat floyd
                  good thing you know. would you give pac credit if humberto soto moves up from 130 to 140 to fight pac and pac beats him? as a pac fan, i wont. how about you?

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                    #19
                    Styles make fights, you can't judge a fight based on fighter A beating fighter B more convincingly than fighter C, so fighter A beats fighter C... it doesn't work like that.

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                      #20
                      of course. floyd is gonna look good.

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