Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz To Andy Ruiz: You Said You're Not Ready To Fight Me, But You're Ready For Joshua?

[KP1]

Not a duck, but poor management by his team, who obviously didn't have the knowhow to rightly assess the situation Joshua was in. They wanted to make a play for (even) more money rather than seizing the opportunity (huge mistake). I'm sure Ortiz himself would have taken that fight, if he didn't have knucklehead middlemen (managers? lol) screwing up. Ortiz hasn't gotten many fights, so he hasn't been able to afford a good enough team. I think Ortiz minus his "businessmen" would have fought AJ for even less than was offered.

But no excuses ... his "team" royally screwed that up, and he has paid for it.

Aye you’re probably right tbh, just can’t be bothered listening to how every top HW in the world is ruining from the guy.

[KP1]

It was a short notice fight. That was reason ortiz team didn't take it. That was reason Eddie made the offer.


Ortiz Was a better opponent than ruiz / Miller. Much higher profile, so why didn't Eddie make that fight earlier and allow him proper preparation?

Ortiz was on course for a mandatory shot at AJ back in 2017 until he pissed hot and got himself removed from the rankings, suppose that was Hearn as well.

Team Ortiz have ****ed up 2 AJ fights.

[ShaneMosleySr]

He was offered more to fight Wilder than he was offered to fight Joshua.

“With all respect to you for all you have done, I’ll fight you for just about any money you offer me so if you can’t work out the Miller fight, I’m here and ready. I’ll fight you in the USA or UK. It’s on you and if you think you’re that good and want to test yourself who better than me? Wilder and Fury are not available and I believe in my heart to be the best you must face the best”

Luis Ortiz.

He woulda made in the region of 15-20m dollars had he won the first fight then had a rematch.

It was a duck, boogeyman myth got busted.

[Jkp]

Ortiz was on course for a mandatory shot at AJ back in 2017 until he pissed hot and got himself removed from the rankings, suppose that was Hearn as well.

Team Ortiz have ****ed up 2 AJ fights.

He is dirty as, which is another reason he can't take short notice fights. He has to have time to do his steroid cycle. Fair enough at his age.

AJ is also clearly on steroids. Which is a reason his fights are planned 6 - 12 months in advance

[Jkp]

Ortiz was on course for a mandatory shot at AJ back in 2017 until he pissed hot and got himself removed from the rankings, suppose that was Hearn as well.

Team Ortiz have ****ed up 2 AJ fights.

I doubt Eddie would of let Ortiz near aj.

They have had plenty of opportunities to make that fight, and give Ortiz time for a decent training camp. But have instead consistently chosen people lower ranked than ortiz instead.

[KP1]

He is dirty as, which is another reason he can't take short notice fights. He has to have time to do his steroid cycle. Fair enough at his age.

AJ is also clearly on steroids. Which is a reason his fights are planned 6 - 12 months in advance

Clearly on the roids is nothing but speculation.

[KP1]

I doubt Eddie would of let Ortiz near aj.

They have had plenty of opportunities to make that fight, and give Ortiz time for a decent training camp. But have instead consistently chosen people lower ranked than ortiz instead.

Pity we will never know because the fake boogeyman is a proven cheat.

[KP1]

He was offered more to fight Wilder than he was offered to fight Joshua.

Thought he was ready to step in for Miller if anything happened, he said that.

He woulda made close to 20m dollars over the course of 2 fights had he taken the AJ fight and won. obviously wasn’t that confident in his ability then was he.

He didn’t make that against Wilder.

[ShaneMosleySr]

I’m sure he did say he would step in for Miller.

Then he was offered more money to fight a rematch with Deontay Wilder than he was offered for the Joshua fight.

So he took the job that paid more (and allowed him to have a full camp), which is what every sane human would do.

In terms of your money comparison, you can’t use Ruiz’s payday from BOTH Joshua fights COMBINED as a comparison to what Ortiz made in one Wilder fight.

He was comparing one offer to one offer, without the benefit we have now of hindsight.

He didn’t know he would lose to Wilder again. He also didn’t know, as we still don’t know, if he would have beaten Joshua.

So, why would he blow off a couple million dollars to pick Joshua? I’m confused.

Thought he was ready to step in for Miller if anything happened, he said that.

He woulda made close to 20m dollars over the course of 2 fights had he taken the AJ fight and won. obviously wasn’t that confident in his ability then was he.

He didn’t make that against Wilder.

[KP1]

I’m sure he did say he would step in for Miller.

Then he was offered more money to fight a rematch with Deontay Wilder than he was offered for the Joshua fight.

So he took the job that paid more (and allowed him to have a full camp), which is what every sane human would do.

In terms of your money comparison, you can’t use Ruiz’s payday from BOTH Joshua fights COMBINED as a comparison to what Ortiz made in one Wilder fight.

He was comparing one offer to one offer, without the benefit we have now of hindsight.

He didn’t know he would lose to Wilder again. He also didn’t know, as we still don’t know, if he would have beaten Joshua.

So, why would he blow off a couple million dollars to pick Joshua? I’m confused.

So why didn’t his team just come out and say “ thanks for the offer but we have a better one”

Instead his manager had a ***** fit about being lowballed, then once that was called nonsense performed a 180 so fast he shoulda been checked for whiplash and took the blame, it doesn’t pass the sniff test.

But just for arguments sake say I believe it then why pick AJ, well it’s painfully simple really, a victory over him and picking up 3 world titles would have been worth more down the line.

And if he’s the big bad boogeyman that AJ was apparently terrified from all these years then why was there even doubt in his mind, this should have been a foregone conclusion, beat AJ twice then walk away 20m richer and march into a unification fight.

turning it down was one of the worst ducks in recent memory, only because it was AJ & Hearn is there even a slither of doubt.