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    #31
    Originally posted by tito yuca View Post
    And that would be a slightly above-average tuneup for Floyd.

    Everyone is extremely divided on this issue - Floyd haters say he is picking on an extremely smaller guy and is a coward, and Floyd huggers say Marquez is the best fighter out there after Floyd and it is an extremely difficult match.

    Both of these points are VERY wrong.

    First of all, Marquez is NOT en extremely smaller guy, he may not have fought above 135, but Floyd has never been at 150 in the ring. Floyd's fight night weight at 154 was nearly identical to Marquez 130-135 fight night weight. Also, Floyd has made a career out of fighting bigger opponents. He's in his 30s, has been inactive for two years, yet the haters want him to face ANOTHER bigger guy right off the bat? You are just so eager to see him lose that it pisses you off that he will win yet again.

    IMO, Marquez IS the best fighter after Floyd P4P, but to say he is a tough challenge for Floyd is crazy. Floyd is still stronger and bigger than Marquez, so the most difficult fight for him would've been a bigger opponent such as Cotto, or a more athletic opponent such as Pacquiao. Like I said before, you can't expect Floyd (or anyone who has been on a layoff) to take on the toughest challenge right after a long layoff. Look what happened to Winky Wright. Tuneups are customary in this sport. Diaz was a tuneup for Pacquiao coming up in weight. Jennings was a tuneup for Cotto after being KO'd. Even if Juan is the best fighter out there, he is a tuneup for Floyd because he is overmatched in every single aspect of boxing.

    The reason I say he is a more difficult than average tuneup is that he is indeed a world class fighter. What I believe Floyd is telling us by choosing this fight is that he intends to go after the tough opponents (Cotto, Pac), and to be better prepared for them after a layoff he is choosing a highly talented guy whom he is still expected to beat.

    People seem to forget, or ignore, that Floyd is coming off a layoff. He also has so many people that want him to lose, that if he took on the toughest fight, and looked bad in the process, he would get ripped to shreds and his aura of invincibility will be lost, as well as his drawing power. What's wrong with a great fighter taking on a still great but slightly less great fighter in his first fight after 2 years of inactivity? Why do the haters only rip Floyd for this, and why aren't the huggers honest about what this fight really is?
    I don't even call it a tuneup, it's going to be an exhibition. A tuneup would be against a threat, somebody that will test you but, you're most surely gonna be able to come out on top. A tuneup fight for May would be like him vs: Collazo, Hlatschwhatever, Quintana, Urango, Torres, somebody along those lines would've served as a better tuneup.

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      #32
      Originally posted by The Dapeedreean View Post
      Altering my post instead of adressing the issue.

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        #33
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Altering my post instead of adressing the issue.
        I've already made my position clear.

        We just disagree. There's no need for "nonono's"

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          #34
          [QUOTE=mangler;5947966]I've **** on Pac-Cotto equally. Why? The catchweights. Fighters dominate their divisions or outgrow em, they move. Common practice. No beef wit that. But if you ain't outgrown your present division, fuck a halfassed move up. Go all the way or not at all. Why ain't these full fledged 147 lb fights? Cuz the lil guys can't be effective there. By demandin catchweights, they admit that physically, it's man against boy. In that case, the WW's prove jack **** by beatin em. Get off my nuts foo.[/QUOTE]

          You would need nuts for me to get on. You have no nuts "foo". And you have never **** on Cotto-Pacquio in the way you do Mayweather-Marquez so don't stoop to lying.

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            #35
            [QUOTE=joseph5620;5948428]
            Originally posted by mangler View Post
            I've **** on Pac-Cotto equally. Why? The catchweights. Fighters dominate their divisions or outgrow em, they move. Common practice. No beef wit that. But if you ain't outgrown your present division, fuck a halfassed move up. Go all the way or not at all. Why ain't these full fledged 147 lb fights? Cuz the lil guys can't be effective there. By demandin catchweights, they admit that physically, it's man against boy. In that case, the WW's prove jack **** by beatin em. Get off my nuts foo.[/QUOTE]

            You would need nuts for me to get on. You have no nuts "foo". And you have never **** on Cotto-Pacquio in the way you do Mayweather-Marquez so don't stoop to lying.
            You obviously can't read then. And like I said, get off my nuts foo.

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              #36
              Originally posted by mangler View Post
              Pac beatin DLH did not prove he can handle an elite WW. Cotto should KO him and will look awful if he doesn't. JMM had his bluff called, and he's too much of a beast to back down. But this fight is bull**** Dap. As a member of the Cartel, I'm surprised you endorse this garbage. JMM deserves better than bein a cherrypicker's scapegoat my ******.




              Another ****** comment by you. Marquez wanted the fight, is getting his biggest payday and opportunity. And you're talking about how he "deserves better". Sheer ignorance.
              Last edited by joseph5620; 08-24-2009, 03:43 PM.

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                #37
                [QUOTE=mangler;5948449]
                Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post

                You obviously can't read then. And like I said, get off my nuts foo.
                I read it for what it was. And like I said, grow some nuts house boy.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SAN D13GO VILLAN View Post
                  Ask Paquiao if he thinks Marquez is just a tune up for Mayweather. Marquez will give Pretty boy HELL!!!
                  Look we have a counter pucher whos 36 years old whos going to try and be the agressor.And We have a 32 year old defensive counter puncher with reflexes like hell whos fighting someone coming up from 135.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
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                    Another ****** comment by you. Marquez wanted the fight, is getting his biggest payday and an opportunty. And you're talking about how he "deserves better". Sheer ignorance.
                    [QUOTE=joseph5620;5948466]
                    Originally posted by mangler View Post

                    I read it for what it was. And like I said, grow some nuts house boy.
                    JMM had his bluff called. I addressed this already. He called out Mr boat buyer to spite Pac. Nobody, includin JMM himself was expectin Mr boat buyer to come runnin outta retirement to fight him. But he was called, the WW demand was placed on him, and he got too much heart to back down. Now 1 more time, get off my nuts foo.

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                      #40
                      [QUOTE=mangler;5948489]
                      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post

                      JMM had his bluff called. I addressed this already. He called out Mr boat buyer to spite Pac. Nobody, includin JMM himself was expectin Mr boat buyer to come runnin outta retirement to fight him. But he was called, the WW demand was placed on him, and he got too much heart to back down. Now 1 more time, get off my nuts foo.
                      And that still doesnt explain your now typically ignorant comments about how he "deserves better". That's comical. Get off JMM's nuts and grow a pair of your own.

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