Are All Of You Insane!!!!!

[MindBat]

JMM gave Manny hell in two fights despite being knocked down in both fights.

He deserves much more praise for calling out and moving up to meet the best fighter in the sport.

If Floyd manhandles Marquez and guns it for Cotto and Pacquiao, Freddie and Bob will run for cover and pull out a long list of stipulations to make the fight difficult to make happen.

But it's all good. Even if Floyd instead fights Shane and other top welters, Cotto and Pacquiao will have to call Floyd out at some point.

[VipersThunder]

I know Im a little late but I just watched the Floyd-JMM Countdown. I still dont get how people arent hyping this fight.

Would you be hyped if Wladimir Klitschko made Chad Dawson come up to heavyweight to fight? The why should anyone be hyped up for this?

[BMWM3P]

I know Im a little late but I just watched the Floyd-JMM Countdown. I still dont get how people arent hyping this fight. It has to again be the mass hate for Floyd. Everyone and there momma has JMM ranked as the #2 P4P guy in the sport and nearly every writer Ive seen, thought that JMM beat Pac in there last fight. I mean, if that scorecard goes to Pac then everyone has JMM as the #1 rated guy in the sport. Now he's fighting Floyd. How can you not get hyped about that? Im sick of clowns like Mangler who are always angry and say the same thing every time. Its always an angry resposne. Then he talks about how WW's should fight WW's and Floyd is too big for JMM. Alot of people say that. How does that make sense? I was talkin on here about Dirrell winning the Super 6 the other day and someone asked me how can I pick Dirrell when he hasnt done anything or beaten anyone. My response was that no one has done anything or beaten anyone until theyve done something or beat someone. Meaning, Floyd, Pac, Cotto, or whoever, all had to start somewhere. They all hadnt proven themselves until they proved themselves. That doesnt stop people from picking them ahead of time or saying that they will be great.

If you listen to guys like Mangler then boxing would be the worst sport in the world. What are you saying, that no one from one weight class can fight a guy from another? It makes no sense. It happeneds all the time but people only get upset when its Floyd. I mean flash back just a few fights ago. Everyone was saying that Oscar vs Pac at WW is a joke. They all said that the fight shouldnt happened and that Pac isnt no WW. After the Diaz fight everyone said that his best weight is still 130 and he should go back there but definatly nothing over LW. Now look at what happened. Sure you could say that Oscar was drained but that still doesnt take away from the fact that Pac looked very good at WW. He may not have looked like a true hardcore huge WW but he looked good at the weight. Then he goes down to 140 and destroys the best guy in 2 rounds. Now I just heard Mangler say that Pac shouldnt fight Cotto, he's a true 140 pounder. What? How did he get to be a true 140 pounder when everyone was just saying that he was a true 130 pounder or 135 at the most? How? Because he did it and proved himself. Why cant JMM do the same. He has to start somewhere. Now you have everyone picking Pac to beat the huge Cotto. This is the same Pac who everyone said had no business fighting Oscar and should go back to 130 but yet JMM cant have that shot and be takened seriously?

On the Countdown show you cant even see any difference between him & Floyd in size, except the inch height advantage. There bodies have the same thickness & width. I also find it super hyprocritical how everyone clowns Floyd for being a weak runner, with feather fist, and is straight defense but now everyone thinks he's too much of a huge monster to fight JMM? How does that make sense. People act like Floyd is the biggest ***** in the sport. He pot shots, runs, is defense first, and has the softest punch, but yet JMM cant be in the ring with him because its such a mismatch physicaly? Come on now. At the begining of the Countdown show they were basically going over JMM's resume and showing how he's been killing all the top guys. Do you guys know who JMM is? I dont get it. He's killing all these elite guys, argubaly beat Pac twice, but Pac can move up & JMM cant? How can this fight not be hyped up. MMA has crazy weight fights. Guys move up all the time to fight guys who are bigger and they win. The difference is that those fights are super hyped. Pac-Cotto is super hyped but Floyd isnt? JMM isnt even doing anything super special. It happeneds all the time. Pac just did it, Williams basically just did it, Shane did it against Oscar, Hopkins did it, and Floyd basically did it. Again, I remember when Floyd just beat Gatti at 140 and was talkin about fighting Winky who just killed Tito at 160 and no one downplayed the fight. When it didnt come off then everyone called Floyd a punk. Thats how you can prove its hate.

Williams just got skooled for 12 rounds against Quintana at WW and now is talking about fighting Hopkins at 165 and no one thinks its a joke. Back when Williams got skooled, you all wouldve clowned him. Now he proved himself and people want to see it. Why cant JMM do that and have the fight be legit? Dont give me this small man stuff either. Floyd only started 1 weight class bigger, Pac was coming into the ring bigger than Floyd when JMM was fighting him at lower weights, and Floyd has been the smallest guy in every division he's been in since he left SFW. This guy just iced Casamayor & Diaz. Thats why I so wish that Floyd wouldve waited and let JMM had 1 fight at 140. If he had done that then everyone would be looking at this differently because JMM is going to school nearly everyone at 140. Bradley was my guy who I was high on but he's looked so average & suspect in his last 2 fights. He's obviously not an average fighter but he's average on the elite level. He's like Clottey, he's missing something. He couldve easily had lost to Holt & Nate if they knew how to fight. Dont tell me that JMM cant hold his own against him. What if Floyd right now said that I want to go to MW to fight Williams. No one would clown the fight. Everyone would hype it. Thats a guy jumping 2 divisions. So what Williams came from WW. Didnt Floyd come from SFW? Why are those fights legit but this isnt? Its just because its Floyd. Thats it. Again, everyone was saying the same exact things about Pac. He's a true 130 pounder, he shouldnt move up, this fight is a joke, that fight is a joke, and now he's done it. JMM cant?

Floyd again is in a no win situation for no reason. Everyone has this guy ranked #2 and is fighting the former P4P #1 but this fight is being dismissed. I cant beleive it. This fight is amazing to me because not only is it 2 of the best and the 2 most skilled guys in the world but its just a different type of fight. You usually dont see guys like JMM, Pac, MAB, EM, fight guys like Floyd. Its so different & great which should add even more too it. You got guys who are historians like Burt Sugar who are hyped about it. Some writers who are fair have actually said that they would put Floyd #1 if he destroyed JMM because they think its a fair fight but everyone who hates him is clowning it. Yet Cotto who was coming into the ring at 157 pounds for all his SLW fights and looking huge at WW is fighting a guy in Pac who started fighting at 56 pounds but everyone loves that fight. Come on man. Stop letting your hate get in the way. Now all people talk about is sales and this or that. Who cares. These are great fights that have already been made. I dont care if no one buys the fight, that doesnt stop it from being a great legendary fight.

Were only an inch away from people talking about this fight like people are talking about Floyd vs Pac. It couldve easily had been Floyd vs JMM that everyone was talkin about if he gets those close nods that alot of people think he deserved. Bottom line, if youre not up for this one then you are not a boxing fan in any way. Even the hater Dougie Fishcer says that its a good fight and JMM could easily win. Watch if Floyd kills him, he'll take all the credit away from him despite saying the whole time that JMM would give him hell. Other writers have said that Floyd is crazy for fighting JMM in his 1st fight back. I hear alot of you calling him a tuneup. Even the Floyd fans because there embarrased. HOw can you call the #2 guy a tuneup. Is Floyd a tuneup for Williams at MW? Come on now. These guys are the best. Look at what little BJ Penn has done. This is nothing new yet this is the only fight that doesnt get takened seriously. This will be another big Floyd win that he gets no credit for in the history books. Sad. Again, JMM has destroyed some of the highest ranked guys in the sport. I mean abused them and skooled them. The 2 most fundemental & skilled fighters in the game cant get more respect?

I tried to read this but really it just impossible for me to take anything this ****** posts seriously. Keep up the **** work DLT, classic ******ed **** as usual.

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[Clyde Barrow]

I know Im a little late but I just watched the Floyd-JMM Countdown. I still dont get how people arent hyping this fight. It has to again be the mass hate for Floyd. Everyone and there momma has JMM ranked as the #2 P4P guy in the sport and nearly every writer Ive seen, thought that JMM beat Pac in there last fight. I mean, if that scorecard goes to Pac then everyone has JMM as the #1 rated guy in the sport. Now he's fighting Floyd. How can you not get hyped about that? Im sick of clowns like Mangler who are always angry and say the same thing every time. Its always an angry resposne. Then he talks about how WW's should fight WW's and Floyd is too big for JMM. Alot of people say that. How does that make sense? I was talkin on here about Dirrell winning the Super 6 the other day and someone asked me how can I pick Dirrell when he hasnt done anything or beaten anyone. My response was that no one has done anything or beaten anyone until theyve done something or beat someone. Meaning, Floyd, Pac, Cotto, or whoever, all had to start somewhere. They all hadnt proven themselves until they proved themselves. That doesnt stop people from picking them ahead of time or saying that they will be great.

If you listen to guys like Mangler then boxing would be the worst sport in the world. What are you saying, that no one from one weight class can fight a guy from another? It makes no sense. It happeneds all the time but people only get upset when its Floyd. I mean flash back just a few fights ago. Everyone was saying that Oscar vs Pac at WW is a joke. They all said that the fight shouldnt happened and that Pac isnt no WW. After the Diaz fight everyone said that his best weight is still 130 and he should go back there but definatly nothing over LW. Now look at what happened. Sure you could say that Oscar was drained but that still doesnt take away from the fact that Pac looked very good at WW. He may not have looked like a true hardcore huge WW but he looked good at the weight. Then he goes down to 140 and destroys the best guy in 2 rounds. Now I just heard Mangler say that Pac shouldnt fight Cotto, he's a true 140 pounder. What? How did he get to be a true 140 pounder when everyone was just saying that he was a true 130 pounder or 135 at the most? How? Because he did it and proved himself. Why cant JMM do the same. He has to start somewhere. Now you have everyone picking Pac to beat the huge Cotto. This is the same Pac who everyone said had no business fighting Oscar and should go back to 130 but yet JMM cant have that shot and be takened seriously?

On the Countdown show you cant even see any difference between him & Floyd in size, except the inch height advantage. There bodies have the same thickness & width. I also find it super hyprocritical how everyone clowns Floyd for being a weak runner, with feather fist, and is straight defense but now everyone thinks he's too much of a huge monster to fight JMM? How does that make sense. People act like Floyd is the biggest ***** in the sport. He pot shots, runs, is defense first, and has the softest punch, but yet JMM cant be in the ring with him because its such a mismatch physicaly? Come on now. At the begining of the Countdown show they were basically going over JMM's resume and showing how he's been killing all the top guys. Do you guys know who JMM is? I dont get it. He's killing all these elite guys, argubaly beat Pac twice, but Pac can move up & JMM cant? How can this fight not be hyped up. MMA has crazy weight fights. Guys move up all the time to fight guys who are bigger and they win. The difference is that those fights are super hyped. Pac-Cotto is super hyped but Floyd isnt? JMM isnt even doing anything super special. It happeneds all the time. Pac just did it, Williams basically just did it, Shane did it against Oscar, Hopkins did it, and Floyd basically did it. Again, I remember when Floyd just beat Gatti at 140 and was talkin about fighting Winky who just killed Tito at 160 and no one downplayed the fight. When it didnt come off then everyone called Floyd a punk. Thats how you can prove its hate.

Williams just got skooled for 12 rounds against Quintana at WW and now is talking about fighting Hopkins at 165 and no one thinks its a joke. Back when Williams got skooled, you all wouldve clowned him. Now he proved himself and people want to see it. Why cant JMM do that and have the fight be legit? Dont give me this small man stuff either. Floyd only started 1 weight class bigger, Pac was coming into the ring bigger than Floyd when JMM was fighting him at lower weights, and Floyd has been the smallest guy in every division he's been in since he left SFW. This guy just iced Casamayor & Diaz. Thats why I so wish that Floyd wouldve waited and let JMM had 1 fight at 140. If he had done that then everyone would be looking at this differently because JMM is going to school nearly everyone at 140. Bradley was my guy who I was high on but he's looked so average & suspect in his last 2 fights. He's obviously not an average fighter but he's average on the elite level. He's like Clottey, he's missing something. He couldve easily had lost to Holt & Nate if they knew how to fight. Dont tell me that JMM cant hold his own against him. What if Floyd right now said that I want to go to MW to fight Williams. No one would clown the fight. Everyone would hype it. Thats a guy jumping 2 divisions. So what Williams came from WW. Didnt Floyd come from SFW? Why are those fights legit but this isnt? Its just because its Floyd. Thats it. Again, everyone was saying the same exact things about Pac. He's a true 130 pounder, he shouldnt move up, this fight is a joke, that fight is a joke, and now he's done it. JMM cant?

Floyd again is in a no win situation for no reason. Everyone has this guy ranked #2 and is fighting the former P4P #1 but this fight is being dismissed. I cant beleive it. This fight is amazing to me because not only is it 2 of the best and the 2 most skilled guys in the world but its just a different type of fight. You usually dont see guys like JMM, Pac, MAB, EM, fight guys like Floyd. Its so different & great which should add even more too it. You got guys who are historians like Burt Sugar who are hyped about it. Some writers who are fair have actually said that they would put Floyd #1 if he destroyed JMM because they think its a fair fight but everyone who hates him is clowning it. Yet Cotto who was coming into the ring at 157 pounds for all his SLW fights and looking huge at WW is fighting a guy in Pac who started fighting at 56 pounds but everyone loves that fight. Come on man. Stop letting your hate get in the way. Now all people talk about is sales and this or that. Who cares. These are great fights that have already been made. I dont care if no one buys the fight, that doesnt stop it from being a great legendary fight.

Were only an inch away from people talking about this fight like people are talking about Floyd vs Pac. It couldve easily had been Floyd vs JMM that everyone was talkin about if he gets those close nods that alot of people think he deserved. Bottom line, if youre not up for this one then you are not a boxing fan in any way. Even the hater Dougie Fishcer says that its a good fight and JMM could easily win. Watch if Floyd kills him, he'll take all the credit away from him despite saying the whole time that JMM would give him hell. Other writers have said that Floyd is crazy for fighting JMM in his 1st fight back. I hear alot of you calling him a tuneup. Even the Floyd fans because there embarrased. HOw can you call the #2 guy a tuneup. Is Floyd a tuneup for Williams at MW? Come on now. These guys are the best. Look at what little BJ Penn has done. This is nothing new yet this is the only fight that doesnt get takened seriously. This will be another big Floyd win that he gets no credit for in the history books. Sad. Again, JMM has destroyed some of the highest ranked guys in the sport. I mean abused them and skooled them. The 2 most fundemental & skilled fighters in the game cant get more respect?

[Pullcounter]

TS first post was too long to read. floyd/jmm is a mismatch.

[Primal Instinx]

Are you kidding me? Ricky Hatton vs Floyd Mayweather was actually a fight boxing fans wanted to desperately see. I did not need 24-7 to "sway" me as you claim. You say elite but Hatton was elite.

What makes you think Cotto (Lets use him as an example) can beat PBF more than Ricky Hatton did prior to them fighting? You see people **** on Hatton but go and see what people where saying before he fought PBF.Hatton is not a bad fighter he is elite just not Mayweather elite.

Yeah Cotto might be better than Hatton but that doesn't mean he can beat Mayweather. Let me guess if PBF VS Cotto happens HBO would have "swayed" us onCotto vs PBF? Assuming Floyd takes care of him as well? Oh wait...

I am not a PBF ball licker like some here but the contradictions and the BS is incredible.

Bro are you kidding me??? I have video evidence of my very first show when I talked about this anticipated fight when it was even first mentioned about these 2 colliding. I stood by the video and still stand by it. Ricky Hatton was also another hype job who was completely out gunned and outclassed by Collazo at his first attempt at WW. He showed so many vulnerabilities that Floyd couldn't wait to jump on him as soon as possible before he was exposed by another fighter...and what do we hear today by Floyd, "I beat Hatton when he was undefeated." Case closed! Floyd always cherry picks his way and manages to fool people thinking he is doing something greater than what he actually is doing and you buy into that B.S. Now he and Golden Boy is trying to sell to the public that this is for the number one spot. Number one spot of what....2nd place runner up of the real p4p fight happening in November if you ask me. There is too much sugar coating and side stepping and hypocrisy on Mayweather's part that Leonard Ellerbe had to get on here to once again work on Floyd's P.R. by saying all the great things he does outside the ring...well that's wonderful but lets get into the meat and potatoes and get down to what Floyd needs to do to improve his public relations...face the best and Marquez is too far out of his division to be considered the best of the division they are fighting in. He's never fought at WW so how can this fight have been made at WW and then sell the fight as #1...hell no I cannot swollow the **** they are trying to spoon feed me and the public. Do yourself a favor as a Floyd fan and demand the most out of your champion.

As far as Cotto/Pac facing Floyd, I hope this fight materializes because we would see an actual fight that the public demands and that would actually make sense for #1. I don't deny that Floyd has god given abilities that people on earth would crave for to have...hell if some people would have a 1/4 of his ability they would probably be champion but the man chooses to take the easy paved roads instead of taking on the crooked unknown paths.

HBO creates shooting stars and the problem with shooting stars is that they burn out quickly...Stop making stars because stars or not made they are born! That is the problem with hype jobs and then everyone is let down when they don't produce. ODLH was on ESPN talking about his stable and the most promising fighter was Victor Ortiz...we all saw what happened when the kid got put into a real dogfight instead of hand me down fighters like Carlos Maussa in order to build a record.

Shane Mosley is a superstar in his own right but when he was being groomed as #1 p4p I remembered telling everyone that Shane needs to stop facing the Shannon Taylor's, the Stones of WW division because he's not acclamating himself to the best fighters and he is not learning from greats he is just beating what he already knew he can beat. He eventually will run into someone that he cannot contain and will not be prepared for it when it happens...behold I told everyone Vernon was going to win that fight and so it happened. PBF is following suit with the type of opposition that he is facing. He has taken too many easy way outs that if and when he is put in the ring with a young hungry lion like a Cotto, or Williams it will be a fight he will not be ready for and once again a star will be exposed. It all has to do with testing yourself every so often and being hungry. The wolf at the top of the mountain is not as hungry as the wolf climbing the mountain having to feed of the scraps.

This is not a testament or epiphany of haterade towards PBF. I respect the man but like I stated earlier I don't respect his legacy thus far because of the fighters he could have face and still can face nor because the sugar coating he has done to get to where he is in the mindset of the public. I have always kept it real when analyzing events and bouts that take place. It is a matter of opinion and take it for what it's worth cause these are my 2 cents.

[DLT]

I remember that it was only a few fights ago when we had numerous threads of who would win between Pac & Juan Diaz and nearly everyone said that Diaz was way too big & strong for Pac. Now just a few fights later everyone has Pac knocking out Cotto in 5 rounds. You dont do it until you do it but that doesnt stop people from hyping it or from great matchups being made. These guys are the best of the best and are much more comparable physicaly than Pac is with Cotto

[DLT]

DLT- Floyd is probably by far light years away in skills from other fighters but he doesn't push the envelope brother. He has shunned away his fans and the sport of boxing from avid boxing fans because of his lack of commitment to facing opposition worthy of legendary fights. Anyone who has been keeping up with Mayweather for several years now will understand this point that he dominated 130-135 yet didn't make all the fights that needed to be made. Then has had very questionable opponents at 140. Furthermore at 147 he has yet to even tap into that brand of fighters and those fighters were forced to fight themselves yet he still proclaims he's the best of the division....In the words of Red, "Frankly my dear I don't give a ****," who he thinks he can beat in a mythological bout...he just needs to walk the walk instead of talking the talk. This is why everyone questions Floyd and why he no longer is on top of the food chain. He can only fool the public so long and people who study the sport stopped believing his hype after the Castillo I decision debacle, regained it after Castillo II only to realize after 135lbs the fights were meaningless and once again stopped believing the hype machine. What he has shown of in recent years is down right ghastly for his Legacy.

You might want to boost and give credit to Floyd for taking a bout against Marquez but Marquez is not the top at WW nor has he even fought at WW and that is where the criticism comes to pass. Marquez struggled with Diaz and Casa...who are lightweights and who are no where near the level of fighters that the elites possess in the WW division. Yes, you have to start somewhere, but for Marquez it was not Floyd at WW and for Floyd it was not Marquez at WW...this is a mismatch and this fight is not what the public aspires to see and the only reason people will tune in is because the undercard fights are promising and matched up far better than the headliner. You may be swayed by the hype machine that 24/7 produces because HBO is pure genius with their marketing ability. Most people thought that Ricky Hatton actually had a chance to dethrone Floyd because of 24/7 but the true pundits of the sport were not so easily swayed.

No one is questioning his skills, everyone is questioning his heart and by making excuses and dodging the best in the division.

Honestly, Im basically too drunk & tired to respond to all of this right now but I will say this. So What, when it comes to this fight! Despite what you think about the man or who he's fought or whatever, this is still a big time fight. I mean he's fighting the #2 P4P guy in the world. This is basically what youre talkin about. You say he's not fighting this guy or that guy but you get upset when he's facing the best or 2nd best guy in the world? Sure JMM is not a 144 pounder but lets not act like Floyd is Mike Tyson. Your 1st sentence is so true. He's light years ahead of everyone in terms of skills and thats why he's fighting at WW & 154. If he was any other fighter his own size, he would be looking like Zab Judah at those weights. He wouldnt beat anyone. The fact is size wise he doesnt belong there at all, or atleast he didnt belong there. He may be bigger now. Coming into the ring at 146 for WW fights but people demand that he has to fight guys coming into the ring at 162-170 who are clearly way bigger & stronger.

Again, I personaly think that he didnt want to lose just because someone was flat out too big for him. He couldnt live with himself if he lost to a guy like Margarito who clearly isnt anywhere near his skill level. Its like night & day but he loses just because Margarito is huge and he's super small. Atleast if Floyd beats JMM, you know most of it is more to do with skill than size. I just really beleive that if Floyd came into the ring at 155 pounds then he would fight every single WW without any problem. He would still be the smallest guy but he would be big enough to compete. His problem is he's always been between 146-148 pounds. Thats not going to do it. Sure he could probably win but how? He would have to run & pot shot all night and then people would kill him for that. Meanwhile Pac is at 130 looking like a Super Star even though he's coming into the ring at the same weight Floyd is at WW against huge monsters like Baldy.

At the end of the day I get what youre saying but to me this fight is legit. I think the reason why people dont think its legit is because they cant see Floyd losing but really, who's fought is that? By that I mean that the fans have turned into Manny Steward. I remember him saying that the only person who can beat Floyd is a huge WW. Basically he was saying that youre not going to beat Floyd unless your are much bigger & stronger. Anyone his own size or a little smaller will get slaughtered, even if youre a top notch fighter. Its like he gets ripped for being too good. He has to fight guys who look like there 2 weight classes bigger even for fights to be fair. We all know that truthfully Floyd has not been the WW that people are making him out to be. He's just a guy fighting at WW because he has the skills to do so. Size wise, he hasnt been a WW at all and thats why he pot shots now.

[Primal Instinx]

Honestly, Im basically too drunk & tired to respond to all of this right now but I will say this. So What, when it comes to this fight! Despite what you think about the man or who he's fought or whatever, this is still a big time fight. I mean he's fighting the #2 P4P guy in the world. This is basically what youre talkin about. You say he's not fighting this guy or that guy but you get upset when he's facing the best or 2nd best guy in the world? Sure JMM is not a 144 pounder but lets not act like Floyd is Mike Tyson. Your 1st sentence is so true. He's light years ahead of everyone in terms of skills and thats why he's fighting at WW & 154. If he was any other fighter his own size, he would be looking like Zab Judah at those weights. He wouldnt beat anyone. The fact is size wise he doesnt belong there at all, or atleast he didnt belong there. He may be bigger now. Coming into the ring at 146 for WW fights but people demand that he has to fight guys coming into the ring at 162-170 who are clearly way bigger & stronger.

Again, I personaly think that he didnt want to lose just because someone was flat out too big for him. He couldnt live with himself if he lost to a guy like Margarito who clearly isnt anywhere near his skill level. Its like night & day but he loses just because Margarito is huge and he's super small. Atleast if Floyd beats JMM, you know most of it is more to do with skill than size. I just really beleive that if Floyd came into the ring at 155 pounds then he would fight every single WW without any problem. He would still be the smallest guy but he would be big enough to compete. His problem is he's always been between 146-148 pounds. Thats not going to do it. Sure he could probably win but how? He would have to run & pot shot all night and then people would kill him for that. Meanwhile Pac is at 130 looking like a Super Star even though he's coming into the ring at the same weight Floyd is at WW against huge monsters like Baldy.

At the end of the day I get what youre saying but to me this fight is legit. I think the reason why people dont think its legit is because they cant see Floyd losing but really, who's fought is that? By that I mean that the fans have turned into Manny Steward. I remember him saying that the only person who can beat Floyd is a huge WW. Basically he was saying that youre not going to beat Floyd unless your are much bigger & stronger. Anyone his own size or a little smaller will get slaughtered, even if youre a top notch fighter. Its like he gets ripped for being too good. He has to fight guys who look like there 2 weight classes bigger even for fights to be fair. We all know that truthfully Floyd has not been the WW that people are making him out to be. He's just a guy fighting at WW because he has the skills to do so. Size wise, he hasnt been a WW at all and thats why he pot shots now.

DLT- Now you are making excuses because of size...last I remembered it's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog. If Mayweather couldn't handle the WWs then why the hell talk like he is the best WW? I have said it before and will continue to say it: Don't talk the talk, walk the walk...if he can't get down with that then he needs to stop writing checks that his ass can't cash. Plain and simple.

As far as this fight being legit: My arguement is that Marquez has never been a WW nor has he competed in that class before. I certainly do not have him ranked as high as Golden Boy or youself...#2 spot is too far fetched for me personally. Yes Marquez is a good fighter but at WW I don't think the man can defeat Margarito, Clottey, Shane, Cotto, Berto, Collazo, Cintron, Quintana, nor Williams. Therefore what the hell does Floyd gain by defeating Marquez? Nothing all he is doing is running from the guys that truly are worthy of fighting him. Marquez doesn't hold water in this division yet so why proclaim this fight is legit at WW?