Calvin Murphy Podcast: RJJ vs B-Hop (audio)

[Ivansmamma]

This interview shows just as we seen earlier that Hopkins wants none of Jones. Hopkins tries to invent all sorts of reasons for not taking the fight. Fact is he would make great money in a fight a lot of fans want to see and more than that he would have the chance to avenge the loss against the one man that convincingly beat him. Hopkins dosen't want it, he likes to get under his opponents skin, make them angry or irritated before the fight throw them of their game. He can't do any of this with Jones, instead it's Hopkins who loses his cool. He knows Roy ain't worried by him and he can't stand it. He still dosen't want any of Roy and he certainly dosen't seem confident in his ability against Roy.

I think it still could be a great fight and i might lean at Bernard taking it, sadly Bernard dosen't seem to think so.

[robjr]

everyone knows im a huge rjj fan. but ill go on record saying by bernard asking 60/40 that is fair because he is the man right now. But also by him not accepting 60 for the winner, 40 for the loser makes him look like a b!tch.

[M.I.C.]

I dont think Roy Jones is scared or ducking anybody, I honestly believe he thinks he can beat just about anybody put in front of him. With him acting ****y and appearing to fight like the Old Roy, I would favor him in rematches with Hopkins, Tarver, or Johnson.

[Ivansmamma]

everyone knows im a huge rjj fan. but ill go on record saying by bernard asking 60/40 that is fair because he is the man right now. But also by him not accepting 60 for the winner, 40 for the loser makes him look like a b!tch.

No self respecting man can accept 60-40 against someone they already beat, simple as that. 50-50 is fair, 60% to the winner is fair to.

[Pugilistic™]

why would a natural lightheavy whose best wins come at the expense of blown up welters worry about getting credit for beating has-beens?

as shot as roy is, i think he just has nard's digits and nard knows it...

on top of that, nard's not at his best either...sure he looked great against smaller, plodding fighters, but always had problems consistently beating fighters his size with equal talent, so this ain't the shoe-in most of his people think it is..

First off, Hopkins has only be a "natural" light heavyweight since 2006. For the majority of his career he was a natural middleweight.

The Blown up welterweights excuse comes again, Funny how the blown up welterweight Tito Trinidad wasn't a blown up welterweight before the fight was he ? He was actually the favourite to win and not only was he supposed to win but he was meant to knock Hopkins out.

People also forget that Tito held a title at 160 and destroyed William Joppy in doing so, Tito is only man to stop Joppy until last year where Joppy was stopped by a natural super middleweight in 10 rounds ( Tito the "blown up welterweight" did it in 5 and when Joppy was at his best).

Oscar was a money fight for Hopkins and was clearly not big enough to deal with Hopkins. People tend to forget though that Hopkins was made to come down to 156 to fight Oscar which was only two pounds away from the junior middleweight division where Oscar at that stage of his career was natural at.

The Wright fight was a fight Hopkins was supposed to lose, but once Hopkins gets the W, the weight excuses come along.

The same applies to the Pavlik fight, Hopkins was supposed to lose ( he was a 4-1 underdog) and many picked Pavlik to KO the old Hopkins instead Hopkins makes him his ***** and then surprise surprise here comes the weight excuse.

You say Hopkins struggled with fighters his own size, Did Hopkins struggle with the natural bigger Tarver and Glen Johnson ?

Hopkins losses to fighters his size came against Jones, Taylor and Calzaghe.

The Jones fight was when neither where in their primes, Jones was closer to his prime though.

His losses to Taylor and Calzaghe were close fights, that could of went Hopkins way. Hopkins was in his 40's by the time the Calzaghe and Taylor fight happened also.

Personally a victory over jones should mean something to hopkins since he got beat by jones 16 years ago, Revenge is the keyword since both are in their 40s now..

Both fighters are in their 40's but one is clearly more fresher of the two.

Hopkins could avenge the loss but it would mean nothing as Jones is past it.

[Walterson]

Hah. The lack of boxing knowledge and logic around here makes me laugh.

Why would Hopkins want to fight Roy when...

1. At his age he only has 1 or 2 fights left in him and his legacy means more to him than money.

2. Roy Jones has lost to two people that Hopkins finished (Johnson and Tarver).

3. The loss that Roy Jones suffered to Calzaghe was much worse than that of Roy Jones.

4. He doesn't gain anything from fighting a past prime Roy Jones.

this can go on...

[Pullcounter]

No self respecting man can accept 60-40 against someone they already beat, simple as that. 50-50 is fair, 60% to the winner is fair to.

but rjj don't deserve that because he he didn't offer bhop the same when their situations were reversed.

[Ivansmamma]

but rjj don't deserve that because he he didn't offer bhop the same when their situations were reversed.

Reversed? It never been like that, first they where 0-0 against each other and now Roy is 1-0 against Hopkins. If Hopkins was the one who won the fight it could be 60-40 but Roy beat him. 50-50 is fair considering Roy beat him but Hopkins having beaten the better opposition the last few years.

If Hopkins can't accept that then make it 60 to the winner. Itīs also a fair deal. Hopkins accepting none of this is just a way for him to explain away not wanting the fight.

[VipersThunder]

More money period from fighting Jones, i remeber Bhop talking **** how he doesn't want to ruin any more young fighters so this makes perfect sense

"I dont need a golden girl to hold my hand"

It's not more money you twit. Hopkins Dawson is one of the biggest fights that can be made in boxing. HBO won't even buy Hopkins Jones as of now. Hopkins said that but you must have blocked it out while you were slobbering Roy's ****.

[VipersThunder]

Roy was DOWN to 100% to the winner NOTHING to the loser....


if Bhop wants to EAT aka make his money.. and hes so damn SURE he ll beat Roy... why would he NOT take that deal?

He could make 12 million, Dawson Adamek Williams arent coming close the money he could make with a 60-40 to the winner or 100 to the winner.

Because he knows that is just Roy talking nonsense like a 2 year old and no commission would ever sanction a fight like that. Roy Jones is a hick with a pre schooler education..