Why does the americans constantly fail to give the Klitscho's the props they deserve?

[DonTaseMeBrah]

Stop whining.

says the guy who made the thread whining about why klutzskho brothers dont get credit.

[Easy-E]

No I mean sound you make like little prison girl getting her ass ****ed.

your insults keep getting more and more creative.
Does this turn you on?


Who else is not suprised that Wlad is catching?

[Easy-E]

your insults keep getting more and more creative.
Does this turn you on?


Who else is not suprised that Wlad is catching?

Also hilarious that when I searched "Klitschko brothers" on google, several variations of this picture showed up on the first few pages.
LOL.

[StarshipTrooper]

your insults keep getting more and more creative.
Does this turn you on?


Who else is not suprised that Wlad is catching?

No doubt he popped his wad when he saw the pic

Poet

[BennyST]

You know the one thing that I find really interesting whenever these types of threads get made by a Klitschko fan? For example, you Hazard, just said the reasons why you think the Klitschko's are underrated and that you think that if they were American they would be considered as among the greatest of all time, and then you go on to ask everyone's opinion on the matter and say 'discuss', but, when anyone even slightly disagrees with you, even if they are just debating without any insult or just give their simple opinion, you jump out and say they are American idiots or they are just plain biased or racist against eastern Europeans or you simply insult them by weird things like 'Stop whining' and a million other insults to anyone that has just given their opinion, which you asked for, on why they think the Klit's are overrated.

You asked for everyone here to tell you and discuss, so why are you being so insulting when they give their opinion to you? If all you wanted to hear was affirmation of your own ideas don't ask for other peoples opinions and ideas and don't ask them to discuss a subject which you brought up and are not willing to hear any differences of opinion on.

This is one other reason why they get a lot of hate on this board. Whenever someone like you brings up this same type of thread, the exact same thing happens each and every time. You ask for opinions and when someone gives you theirs you insult them for it and abuse them about being racist, ****** or a Fat Yank or whatever.

Anyway, that is off topic and another discussion. Back on topic: The biggest reason why a lot of people don't give the Klitschko's the time of day are quite simple really. There are two very basic reasons and they have nothing to do whatsoever with race or being American or anything so daft and inbred as that.

The first and main reason is that they are quite simply boring to watch. Yes, they both have high KO %, but, if the entire fight consists of one huge guy towering over a little fat guy and the whole fight he backtracks and throws nothing but jabs and then moves and then jabs and then moves with the occasional right hand until finally around the ninth or tenth round one of those right hands get through and then the fight is over, well, you can see why the KO % doesn't add up to a good fight. Just do this before you argue or call me ******: Go and watch a typical HW fight from the seventies, like Jerry Quarry vs Joe Frazier, or what about a more recent one in an era you said was weak and boring (the Larry Holmes era)? Try watching Norton vs Holmes or Shavers vs Holmes or any of his other fights. What about Lewis vs Mercer? Now, Vit Klit has been in a few good scraps but even they are few and far between and nothing of this eras best fights come close to matching some past eras typically good fights. Not the best fights of past eras, the best fights of today don't even match up to just the typical good ones of past eras. That is the biggest problem.

Secondly: It is unfortunate, but, they just simply fight in the weakest, worst HW era that has ever been sadly. That is not their fault, but that doesn't matter. They are great for this era, but it is so terrible that it makes it near impossible to tell and understand how good they really are. When it comes down to it, the best fighter either one of them fought was old, in terrible fat ass shape but still ended beating the supposed 'better' brother by TKO. It was a close fight, but it still ended in TKO and it was the worst version of Lewis I've ever seen. No, I'm not biased, I don't even like Lewis.

Of course one other thing people look at is that if (and I have a feeling you are not going to like hearing this and I'm going to get flamed for simply giving my opinion on the question you asked us to discuss) guys like Ross Purrity, Corrie Sanders, Brewster etc are able to spark Wlad, then what would fighters who are faster, hit harder, have better defense, more stamina and are just simply a lot better fighters be able to do to him? He seems to have developed his defense better, but it is still just one fighter with a great hook, quick hands and decent defense that could put him out.

All fighters lose, but you have to look at who they lose to, at what stage of their career they are at, how they lose etc etc. If it is a weak era and they lose to guys that are not really very good at all, and if it happens a number of times, then you really have to understand that in a very good era it would be happening a lot more. Like it or not.

They are great fighters for this era, but for all time? I don't see it. Before you say it, no, I'm not a racist, American, patriotic nuthugger.

Anyway, that's it. Boring and weak era. Simple as that. That is the reason they will always be considered good, and will eventually be considered very good, but unfortunately never great.

[IMDAZED]

You know the one thing that I find really interesting whenever these types of threads get made by a Klitschko fan? For example, you Hazard, just said the reasons why you think the Klitschko's are underrated and that you think that if they were American they would be considered as among the greatest of all time, and then you go on to ask everyone's opinion on the matter and say 'discuss', but, when anyone even slightly disagrees with you, even if they are just debating without any insult or just give their simple opinion, you jump out and say they are American idiots or they are just plain biased or racist against eastern Europeans or you simply insult them by weird things like 'Stop whining' and a million other insults to anyone that has just given their opinion, which you asked for, on why they think the Klit's are overrated.

You asked for everyone here to tell you and discuss, so why are you being so insulting when they give their opinion to you? If all you wanted to hear was affirmation of your own ideas don't ask for other peoples opinions and ideas and don't ask them to discuss a subject which you brought up and are not willing to hear any differences of opinion on.

This is one other reason why they get a lot of hate on this board. Whenever someone like you brings up this same type of thread, the exact same thing happens each and every time. You ask for opinions and when someone gives you theirs you insult them for it and abuse them about being racist, ****** or a Fat Yank or whatever.

Anyway, that is off topic and another discussion. Back on topic: The biggest reason why a lot of people don't give the Klitschko's the time of day are quite simple really. There are two very basic reasons and they have nothing to do whatsoever with race or being American or anything so daft and inbred as that.

The first and main reason is that they are quite simply boring to watch. Yes, they both have high KO %, but, if the entire fight consists of one huge guy towering over a little fat guy and the whole fight he backtracks and throws nothing but jabs and then moves and then jabs and then moves with the occasional right hand until finally around the ninth or tenth round one of those right hands get through and then the fight is over, well, you can see why the KO % doesn't add up to a good fight. Just do this before you argue or call me ******: Go and watch a typical HW fight from the seventies, like Jerry Quarry vs Joe Frazier, or what about a more recent one in an era you said was weak and boring (the Larry Holmes era)? Try watching Norton vs Holmes or Shavers vs Holmes or any of his other fights. What about Lewis vs Mercer? Now, Vit Klit has been in a few good scraps but even they are few and far between and nothing of this eras best fights come close to matching some past eras just good fights. Not the best fights of past eras, they don't even match up to just the typical good ones. That is the biggest problem.

Secondly: It is unfortunate, but, they just simply fight in the weakest, worst HW era that has ever been sadly. That is not their fault, but that doesn't matter. They are great for this era, but it is so terrible that it makes it near impossible to tell and understand how good they really are. When it comes down to it, the best fighter either one of them fought was old, in terrible fat ass shape but still ended beating the supposed 'better' brother by TKO. It was a close fight, but it still ended in TKO and it was the worst version of Lewis I've ever seen. No, I'm not biased, I don't even like Lewis.

Of course one other thing people look at is that if (and I have a feeling you are not going to like hearing this and I'm going to get flamed for simply giving my opinion on the question you asked us to discuss) guys like Ross Purrity, Corrie Sanders, Brewster etc are able to spark Wlad, then what would fighters who are faster, hit harder, have better defense, more stamina and are just simply a lot better fighters be able to do to him? He seems to have developed his defense better, but it is still just one fighter with a great hook, quick hands and decent defense that could put him out.

All fighters lose, but you have to look at who they lose to, at what stage of their career they are at, how they lose etc etc. If it is a weak era and they lose to guys that are not really very good at all, and if it happens a number of times, then you really have to understand that in a very good era it would be happening a lot more. Like it or not.

They are great fighters for this era, but for all time? I don't see it. Before you say it, no, I'm not a racist, American, patriotic nuthugger.

Anyway, that's it. Boring and weak era. Simple as that. That is the reason they will always be considered good, and will eventually be considered very good, but unfortunately never great.

Best post on the thread.

[Phirsole]

BennyST,

standing ovations for your post. Green Karma from me.

[StarshipTrooper]

Green to BennyST as well: Easily one of the best posts I've read in a while.

Poet

[IMDAZED]

Green to BennyST as well: Easily one of the best posts I've read in a while.

Poet

Where I'm from we'd call benny's post straight ether.

[Mr. Philadel]

the Klits are BEAST......Wlad is the BEST HW on the planet!!.....Vitali is stopping Wlad from getting ALL those belts......and with his Olympic GOLD medal.......he'll have accomplished EVERYTHING possible in the sport of boxing.......he deserves that opportunity but his bigger brother is shine-blockin' IMO!!