So, Marquez beat Pacquiao?

[Titing Kabayo]

I didn't know they fought twice,ok? Shoot me.

Nope... I will gain nothing from shooting the ****.. You argue on who is better, yet you know nothing.. good..

[Titing Kabayo]

:QUOTE=Hard2kill;5834095]You did not specified which fight... I think you did not watch the first fight where Marquez kissed the canvass 3 times in round 1.. LOL

yeah he kissed the canvas 3 times and yet went on to get the draw what does that tell you about the rest of the fight[/QUOTE]

The fight tells that Marquez has a great heart and Pacquiao has great heart and power.. what else do you want to hear...? That Marquez has a paper chin?

[ny123]

De La Hoya and Hatton?

But I suppose you could argue that his improvement from Marquez II to Hatton isn't that big

Pacquiao has quite clearly become a better boxer over the past two years or so, but he's still not unbeatable. JMM beat him.

everyone knows that pac caught hoya and hatton at the right time in both of their careers and if hoya was in his prime he would have kod pac easily. not that its pacs fault for taking the 2 biggest money and exposure fights out there for him and dominating but lets be real pac hasnt really proved anything over 126 to show that he can handle a top 5 ww

[VatoMulatto]

Marquez won both fights.

[ny123]

The fight tells that Marquez has a great heart and Pacquiao has great heart and power.. what else do you want to hear...? That Marquez has a paper chin? [/QUOTE]

no that marquez went on to win the vast majority:: of the rounds to be able to earn a draw after kissing the canvas 3 times in the first round

[S.G.]

everyone knows that pac caught hoya and hatton at the right time in both of their careers and if hoya was in his prime he would have kod pac easily. not that its pacs fault for taking the 2 biggest money and exposure fights out there for him and dominating but lets be real pac hasnt really proved anything over 126 to show that he can handle a top 5 ww

While I agree that they were obviously reduced versions of both De La Hoya and Hatton, I still believe both of them were capable of operating on an elite level (Hatton moreso than De La Hoya), so Pacquiao's performances were still pretty great

They were enough to convince me that Pacquiao can perform at a world class level, nay, a P4P #1 level, at 140lbs and up. He has visibly retained his speed and the vast majority of his power while altering his fight plans in a way which, IMO, makes him even more capable on the world stage

[Cleto_Reyes]

Marquez Drew the First and Won the Second.

[ny123]

While I agree that they were obviously reduced versions of both De La Hoya and Hatton, I still believe both of them were capable of operating on an elite level (Hatton moreso than De La Hoya), so Pacquiao's performances were still pretty great

They were enough to convince me that Pacquiao can perform at a world class level, nay, a P4P #1 level, at 140lbs and up. He has visibly retained his speed and the vast majority of his power while altering his fight plans in a way which, IMO, makes him even more capable on the world stage

i repect your opinion but im just not sold on pac handling elite wws based off hatton and hoya fights

[S.G.]

i repect your opinion but im just not sold on pac handling elite wws based off hatton and hoya fights

fair enough

[Titing Kabayo]

i repect your opinion but im just not sold on pac handling elite wws based off hatton and hoya fights

Of course he can't considering his size... But put a man of his size in front of him and you'll see the result... To prove that you are great is not necessarily beating big guys but rather beating excellent competition.. Both DLH and Hatton can still beat other fighters of Pacquiao size...