Floyd Buckled Oscar, Pacquiao Never Hurt Him

[Kalion]

you can say the same for Mayweather, in fact, thats all Maywether has really. No one still gives a **** about him, see JMM vs Mayweather ticket sales.

Dont be silly, Floyd was arguably P4P #1 aearly as 2003,thats 6 years ago so how was he unheard of? Where was PAC at then? Also noone knows how tickets sale are doing until fight night. If its a sell out on fight night and they didnt lower prices or anything give any discounts then dose it matter how or what rate they sold out at? Its still a sell out.

[shogunn]

Dont be silly, Floyd was arguably P4P #1 aearly as 2003,thats 6 years ago so how was he unheard of? Where was PAC at then? Also noone knows how tickets sale are doing until fight night. If its a sell out on fight night and they didnt lower prices or anything give any discounts then dose it matter how or what rate they sold out at? Its still a sell out.

even when he was #1 P4P he was still fighting on regular HBO. Manny was fighting PPVs before Mayweather. Welcome to boxing.

Manny and cotto only have 3000 tickets left, whereas Floyd vs JMM have 348 purchased tickets.

this wasnt even the original point of the thread, but as a floyd fan, you had to bring up his money, draw, etc. typical of you guys.

[Kalion]

Sure it's feasible but I don't think that this kind of method for figuring out the probable outcome of a fight is realistic though. I agree that DLH looked emaciated to an extent in the Pac fight but if he overtrained or undertrained then that failure rests with him and his team.

Floyd could have made DLH quit at a lower weight as well but that was not the fight I saw so I can only speculate that the same thing would happen.

The same kind of thing can be argued should Floyd beat JMM yet fail to knock him down and merely win via SD or UD. People would be saying that even at a higher weight than where Pac fought him, Floyd could not even knock JMM down while Manny knocked him down 4 times at lightweight.

I would not know how the fight may turn out given different circumstances but only give opinions about what i saw in the ring.



But I do agree that things could have been different for Floyd and DLH had Floyd fought a dehydrated DLH.

Thats what im trying to illustrate. People give PAQ the ATG title mainly based on those 2 wins, and compare them to the results of PBF fights against those same guys. But what they dont do is what you just did and thats acknowledge that the fights where under different circumstance and if situations were reversed then the outcomes may have been completely different. i.e. PBF could have KOd DLH and pac may have loss. So basically its pointless to say PAQ wins or Paq>>>>PBF base on those 2 fights.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

even when he was #1 P4P he was still fighting on regular HBO. Manny was fighting PPVs before Mayweather. Welcome to boxing.

Manny and cotto only have 3000 tickets left, whereas Floyd vs JMM have 348 purchased tickets.

this wasnt even the original point of the thread, but as a floyd fan, you had to bring up his money, draw, etc. typical of you guys.

Pac has more fights on hbo ppv than mr.counterfeit cash has great wins.

Pac has more wins vs sure fire hall of famers than the whole mayweather boxing family has.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

Thats what im trying to illustrate. People give PAQ the ATG title mainly based on those 2 wins, and compare them to the results of PBF fights against those same guys. But what they dont do is what you just did and thats acknowledge that the fights where under different circumstance and if situations were reversed then the outcomes may have been completely different. i.e. PBF could have KOd DLH and pac may have loss. So basically its pointless to say PAQ wins or Paq>>>>PBF base on those 2 fights.

pac is the smaller fighter. he's a former flyweight champion. fraud jr. started at 130. thats the difference. smaller man beat bigger men in more dominant & entertaining fashion than fraud jr.

[Kalion]

even when he was #1 P4P he was still fighting on regular HBO. Manny was fighting PPVs before Mayweather. Welcome to boxing.

Manny and cotto only have 3000 tickets left, whereas Floyd vs JMM have 348 purchased tickets.

this wasnt even the original point of the thread, but as a floyd fan, you had to bring up his money, draw, etc. typical of you guys.

First I never brought up his finances, you bought up ticket sales first.Also while paq has 2 more ppv fights than PBF does he still dosent have more sales than PBF.So explain that. As far as the tickets sales go, please show mw and official link from MGM Grand or Ticket Master showing they have only sold 348 tickets because that is highly unbelieveable.

[Kalion]

pac is the smaller fighter. he's a former flyweight champion. fraud jr. started at 130. thats the difference. smaller man beat bigger men in more dominant & entertaining fashion than fraud jr.

Yeah started as a flywieght but how many people say he never belong there and blame his 2 KOS on him struggeling to make weight for those classes. And say what you wont but paq beating an emanciated,dehydrated 147 DLH dosent out shine a victory at 154 with him wieghing 160+. Can Paq beat DLH at 160+, dnt be ******.

[sandyvahra]

Mannys accomplishments? whether people hate or not people know who is the best which is floyd, floyds undefeated, floyd has the bread, floyd will be an ATG and legend. soon as PAc gets his ass whooped hes done and yesterdays news

Pac goes down as the greater fighter all time. Go look at polls. He's easily fighter of the decade.

You've had to much of Pacs "Jim Jones" Kool-Aid.oth


Both Pac and PBF have accomplished much, and they both are great fighters. But to say that Pac accomplishments are 10x more than PBF's is ignorant. 2 years ago PAC was unheard of, it wasnt until his DLH and Hatton fights that he became the superstar he is right now. But there are plenty things you can say about those 2 wins that take away from thier validity. His next fight if it is against Cotto, PBF or Mosely will be his opprotunity to kill the hype and prove he is worth all the comparisons and title he has recieved as of lately.

Where did I say pac accomplished 10 times more? Learn to read, Pac has accomplished more and if you disagree go look back at some polls. Pac 1 year ago was thought to be killed vs. WW, year later he's favoured. Give the man his props.

[miracl3pwnz]

how did DLH's face look after fighting like Stevie Forbes? DLH's performance against Forbes was lame at best eventhough DLH hit forbes more times then forbes it dlh. but look at the damage DLH sustained to his face after the fight.


DLH's face didnt react to none punchers like that until he got that a*s tagged by PBF

Heh Hate to break topic but reminds me of the way Calzaghe showed how he got that ass spanked. Sometimes you can actually see it in the faces of the boxers. Who is ACTUALLY winning, no matter what you or I see. We're not in the ring so we dont know how hard and bad those punches are hitting. Sometimes the slower boxer is actually hitting harder but gets overlooked. But Calzaghes face that night looked like he got whipped on the face with a flyswatter. Same as DLH n Forbes. Thing is with PBF, He knows he is good and trains WAY too much. But i will say some of the boxers he chose were out of their prime. And btw PAc fans cmon...If u think pacs knockout was a work of art, Replay the PBF check hook replay

EDIT:: Btw if anyone has Fight Night Rd 4 for Xbox 360 add me: Miracl3pwnz

RIP Vernon Forrest

[Walter Kovacs]

wow i see the difference now

pacquiao fans - all in for just a good fun to piss off serious ***gets up in here.

mayweather fans - would go to extreme ******ity and pure hate just to protect mayweahter.