In the most recent display of what is becoming an almost Ali-Cosell relationship, ESPN’s Brian Kenny and Floyd Mayweather briefly touched on the topic of the Welterweight championship. Mayweather went after a previous Kenny assertion of Mosley as the ‘real’ champion right now, referencing his 2006 win over Carlos Baldomir. The inference was that Mayweather, having defeated the lineal champion of the division at that time, should somehow still be seen as the champ at 147 lbs. [details]
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This kind of ******ed ass thinking is why I thought Mayweather Jr. wont make a good coach.
On to the point though; someone please slap Mayweather. Your not the champ when your retire and comeback a year later. Hell, your not even ranked top 50 p4p. Not even ranked top 10 at WW.
I like Mayweather but when you retire you gotta work your way back up. It's not just given to you. Specially not in a stacked division like WW.
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Originally posted by F l i c k e r View PostThis kind of ******ed ass thinking is why I thought Mayweather Jr. wont make a good coach.
On to the point though; someone please slap Mayweather. Your not the champ when your retire and comeback a year later. Hell, your not even ranked top 50 p4p. Not even ranked top 10 at WW.
I like Mayweather but when you retire you gotta work your way back up. It's not just given to you. Specially not in a stacked division like WW.
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Great article. I do hope he steps forward to claim it but IMO he have to go thru Cotto and Mosley first. Beating one may not be enough.
Even if Mosley or Cotto lost in their next bout and Pbf wins against Marquez, I would still not refer to him as the man at WW. IMO, he needs to beat the 2 topmost WW to clear the way for it. When he retired, the triangle who vied for the title of top WW of Cotto-Shane-Margarito showed this is not easy.
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If there is so much confusion at the top of the welterweight division as to who the real champ is, why don't they have their own little tourney. Either, the Final Four which would simply include the best 4 welterweights (Mayweather, Mosley, Paul Williams, and Miguel Cotto) in a single elimination tourney. Or, if that does not seem fair, an Elite Eight (adding Clottey, Berto, Margarito, and maybe Collazo or Cintron). Winner would have to win 3 fights in a row to become linear/undisputed champ. I doubt this would happen for many reasons but this would at least be on par with the SuperMiddleweight tourney in my opinion (as far as level of fighters).
In case your wondering why I left out Pacquio and Marquez, the reason is because this tourney would be at 147 not at any catchweight.
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Originally posted by cottofan2 View PostIf there is so much confusion at the top of the welterweight division as to who the real champ is, why don't they have their own little tourney. Either, the Final Four which would simply include the best 4 welterweights (Mayweather, Mosley, Paul Williams, and Miguel Cotto) in a single elimination tourney. Or, if that does not seem fair, an Elite Eight (adding Clottey, Berto, Margarito, and maybe Collazo or Cintron). Winner would have to win 3 fights in a row to become linear/undisputed champ. I doubt this would happen for many reasons but this would at least be on par with the SuperMiddleweight tourney in my opinion (as far as level of fighters).
In case your wondering why I left out Pacquio and Marquez, the reason is because this tourney would be at 147 not at any catchweight.
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If Floyd wants a piece of WW crown, he should fight a top WW...
He dares to call himself an ATG fighter... Well he will never become in the eyes of many, until he does what he had to do for the couple of recent years: fight plenty of great WWs who have been in the division for the last couple of years... And i`m talking about: Williams, Margarito, Mosley, Cotto, Clottey!
By far, Floyd (along with Roy Jones Jr. whom i simply adore) is the biggest "could`ve", "would`ve" boxer in the whole history...
He could have locked his HoF status if he fought somebody out of that list... Instead after he defeated Hatton (which i give him credit for), he proclaimed himself an ATG fighter, and all the top WWs "unworthy" challenges... This is not the way you earn your legacy...
This is coming from a potential hater, as i see a talented boxer, who once took challenges (Castillo, Corrales) but as time passed turned into a scandalous romped hysteric baby, who preffered big names (Judah,Oscar,Hatton) to real challenges (all the recent WW titleholders).
It is not about hating the loud-mouths... Ali was also a trash-talker, but he proved his elite status by fighting the TOP of the TOP`s competitions...
Now Mayweather is taking a lightweight who moves up two divisions up... I can`t say this is a BAD fight, as i respect JMM A LOT, he will become a deserved HoFamer! But in the same way Floyd can challenge Calderon, who will move hell-knows-how-many divisions up, beat him and say that have defeated an unbeaten two-division title-holder!
He did good job in defeating opponents who were in the same ring with him, but the problem is that there are no RIGHT people on his record...
Until there are none, i`m not a Floyd fan!
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