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Pacquiao himself confirms: NO BELT ON THE LINE!! and why he agreed to the fight

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    #81
    Originally posted by Animalistic View Post


    You mad? Don't get sensitive. We in a war here no need to name call other people. That's weak **** son.
    do i care?

    i'm not the one complaining.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
      if pac wins he stays #1 obviously.

      if cotto wins , winner of pbf-jmm is #1.



      btw calzaghe retiring had nothing to do with pac being #1. he was #1 when joe was still fighting. no respectable p4p ranking had calzaghe #1 over pacquiao.
      Bro...give me the reasons why Cotto wouldn't be #1 p4p if he beats Manny??? And in the same breath give me the reasons why winner of JMMvsFloyd should be considered #1 if Manny loses...what kind of hypocritical mess is that? Never heard to be the man you have to beat the man??? So why wouldn't that apply to Cotto if he wins especially after taking on the better part of the division, which is far more than other boxers have done as of recent.

      As of the Joe C matter...your entitled to your opinion but p4pboxing has always stated Joe C and Manny were the top 2 that could be interchangable so yes Joe C. retiring assures Manny to be at the top spot...If Joe wouldn't have retired it would have depended on his opposition choices to see who would have been at the top between him and Manny. Not disagreeing that Manny isn't the p4p man but not buying into the fact that Joe C wasn't the man either especially since he still has his "0" even after taking on real live competition.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Animalistic View Post
        Now please *******s, STFU! I don't want more crying from you guys begging the WW champion to put his belt on the line. Pacquiao agreed and Cotto agreed! Let's fight!
        Amen! Let's get it on! I'm glad to read this, it shows some class from Pac. He probably tried to have it a title fight, but when Cotto said no and gave the reason, Manny probably said whatever, no big deal.

        Everything we have heard in negotiations, from the weight to whether the title would be on the line, has been completely blown out of proportion. This fight was never in jeopardy of not happening.

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          #84
          That is sadly, a slightly-flawed ranslation, just where it counts

          Walang championship belt ang napagkasunduan sa laban na ito dahil sa catch weight na 145 pounds, 2 pounds na mas mababa kaysa sa 147 welterweight limit.

          No championship belt has been agreed upon in this fight, because of the catch weight of 145 pounds, 2 pounds lower than the 147 welterweight limit.



          Just a slight difference, but it reads less lke a statement of finality.
          Given the WBO's vocal interest in the sanctioning fees, and Filipino
          interest in Pac winning a 7th strap, I wouldn't rule a title fight out.
          Last edited by horge; 07-26-2009, 07:26 AM.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Primal Instinx View Post
            Bro...give me the reasons why Cotto wouldn't be #1 p4p if he beats Manny??? And in the same breath give me the reasons why winner of JMMvsFloyd should be considered #1 if Manny loses...what kind of hypocritical mess is that? Never heard to be the man you have to beat the man??? So why wouldn't that apply to Cotto if he wins especially after taking on the better part of the division, which is far more than other boxers have done as of recent.

            As of the Joe C matter...your entitled to your opinion but p4pboxing has always stated Joe C and Manny were the top 2 that could be interchangable so yes Joe C. retiring assures Manny to be at the top spot...If Joe wouldn't have retired it would have depended on his opposition choices to see who would have been at the top between him and Manny. Not disagreeing that Manny isn't the p4p man but not buying into the fact that Joe C wasn't the man either especially since he still has his "0" even after taking on real live competition.
            It is not, live with it. Cotto is too big for manny.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Primal Instinx View Post
              Bro...give me the reasons why Cotto wouldn't be #1 p4p if he beats Manny??? And in the same breath give me the reasons why winner of JMMvsFloyd should be considered #1 if Manny loses...what kind of hypocritical mess is that? Never heard to be the man you have to beat the man??? So why wouldn't that apply to Cotto if he wins especially after taking on the better part of the division, which is far more than other boxers have done as of recent.

              As of the Joe C matter...your entitled to your opinion but p4pboxing has always stated Joe C and Manny were the top 2 that could be interchangable so yes Joe C. retiring assures Manny to be at the top spot...If Joe wouldn't have retired it would have depended on his opposition choices to see who would have been at the top between him and Manny. Not disagreeing that Manny isn't the p4p man but not buying into the fact that Joe C wasn't the man either especially since he still has his "0" even after taking on real live competition.
              every credible boxing source had pacquiao #1 before joe even retired.

              it's not my opinion. it's fact. look up boxingscene's ranking , east side boxing's , ring magazine's , espn's , cyberboxing's back then.



              why? because miguel cotto got KTFO barely 3 fights ago.

              juan manuel marquez had a sd loss with the current #1 and has gone on to beat the lineal champ and another top lightweight and if he beats floyd that ****s on anything cotto has ever done.

              floyd mayweather jr. was #1 before he retired barely a year and half ago and if he beats jmm he just gets a win over the #2 p4p fighter in the world.

              cotto's resume is so god damn overrated. he's a good fighter with a good resume. nothing more.

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                #87
                Ok so no belts..............now how do we make this 12 rounds???

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
                  every credible boxing source had pacquiao #1 before joe even retired.

                  it's not my opinion. it's fact. look up boxingscene's ranking , east side boxing's , ring magazine's , espn's , cyberboxing's back then.



                  why? because miguel cotto got KTFO barely 3 fights ago.

                  juan manuel marquez had a sd loss with the current #1 and has gone on to beat the lineal champ and another top lightweight and if he beats floyd that ****s on anything cotto has ever done.

                  floyd mayweather jr. was #1 before he retired barely a year and half ago and if he beats jmm he just gets a win over the #2 p4p fighter in the world.

                  cotto's resume is so god damn overrated. he's a good fighter with a good resume. nothing more.
                  really...

                  thats interesting...

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by horge View Post
                    That is sadly, a slightly-flawed ranslation, just where it counts

                    Walang championship belt ang napagkasunduan sa laban na ito dahil sa catch weight na 145 pounds, 2 pounds na mas mababa kaysa sa 147 welterweight limit.

                    No championship belt has been agreed upon in this fight, because of the catch weight of 145 pounds, 2 pounds lower than the 147 welterweight limit.



                    Just a slight difference, but it reads less lke a statement of finality.
                    Given the WBO's vocal interest in the sanctioning fees, and Filipino
                    interest in Pac winning a 7th strap, I wouldn't rule a title fight out.
                    Oh geez you are right. After I translated it, I drove to SM Marikina for groceries, and while driving it hit me that I did not translate that crucial one to the letter. The next sentence is an "even if" scenario, one we lawyers like to call an "assuming that" scenario. So yes you are correct. It does leave the door for WBO to insist on this being a title fight, but at least we now know Pacquiao's sentiment as far as the belt is concerned, and that as of this time, the fighters "have not agreed" to put Cotto's belt on the line.

                    So I will take Pacquiao's cue and in humility admit my mistake. Thanks man.

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