I gotta agree, cotto stans are very hypocritical.
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Why ain't Cotto huggers moaning about him facing a smaller man at a catchweight?
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Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Postit doesn't matter if he has been tested.
he fought a top 4 lightweight and the top guy at super lightweight.
whether he was in a tough fight or not is irrelevant.
we saw how he moved and punched at 147 and he carried the weight well.
marquez doesn't look right at 135. he won but wasn't the same as he was at 130.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View PostI gotta agree, cotto stans are very hypocritical.
pac (140 champ)-cotto (147 champ) = pac-hatton
jmm (135 champ)-mayweather (former 147 champ) = pac-delahoya
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Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Postit doesn't matter if he has been tested.
he fought a top 4 lightweight and the top guy at super lightweight.
whether he was in a tough fight or not is irrelevant.
we saw how he moved and punched at 147 and he carried the weight well.
marquez doesn't look right at 135. he won but wasn't the same as he was at 130.
I do kind of agree about Marquez, but I lost a **** load of money on the JMM-Diaz fight based on thinking like that, so getting fooled like that once makes me leery about looking at it the same way again.
David Diaz was a nobody a never was, worse then Arturo Gatti and Carlos Baldomir so don't try to talk him up to me.
There are reasons I think the way I do, I hate loosing money and if i looked at boxing the way you do I would be living in a box by now~. Being actually tested at certain levels is always relevent, saying it doesn't mean anything is ignorence at its finest.
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Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Postthere's a difference between a 140 champ and a 147 champ fighting at a catchweight and a 135 champ and a former 147 champ fighting at the same catchweight (if it is a catchweight. they're still not sure if pbf-jmm is at 144 or 147)
pac (140 champ)-cotto (147 champ) = pac-hatton
jmm (135 champ)-mayweather (former 147 champ) = pac-delahoya
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Probably because Cotto has been active and deserves a pay day against Manny unlike Floyd who solely came back to pursue big pay days as usual.
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostIf you want to think like that go ahead.
I do kind of agree about Marquez, but I lost a **** load of money on the JMM-Diaz fight based on thinking like that, so getting fooled like that once makes me leery about looking at it the same way again.
David Diaz was a nobody a never was, worse then Arturo Gatti and Carlos Baldomir so don't try to talk him up to me.
There are reasons I think the way I do, I hate loosing money and if i looked at boxing the way you do I would be living in a box by now~. Being actually tested at certain levels is always relevent, saying it doesn't mean anything is ignorence at its finest.
the fact is david diaz was a 135 fighter and pacquiao beat him.
pacquiao also beat hatton at 140 and delahoya at 147.
whether they weren't good wins to you or not is irrelevant.
pacquiao fought at those weights and looked good fighting at that weight.
denegrate the wins if you want but it doesn't change the fact that he can carry the weight in those divisions.
you're wrong on this issue and you need to just go away.
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Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Postit doesn't matter if he has been tested.
he fought a top 4 lightweight and the top guy at super lightweight.
whether he was in a tough fight or not is irrelevant.
we saw how he moved and punched at 147 and he carried the weight well.
marquez doesn't look right at 135. he won but wasn't the same as he was at 130.
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Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Posti don't give a **** what you think about david diaz.
the fact is david diaz was a 135 fighter and pacquiao beat him.
pacquiao also beat hatton at 140 and delahoya at 147.
whether they weren't good wins to you or not is irrelevant.
pacquiao fought at those weights and looked good fighting at that weight.
denegrate the wins if you want but it doesn't change the fact that he can carry the weight in those divisions.
you're wrong on this issue and you need to just go away.
If you think the things that I stated are irrelevent you should probably just go hang out on the Dora the Explorer message board because talking boxing is obviously not your cup of tea.
I was not even denegrating those wins just keeping it real, which you obviously do not. Dominating wins in boxing usually mean next to nothing when a fighter actually get challenged, so all those fights are meaningless to me. Some of them are good wins Hatton win for the belt at 140 is pretty good, beating Oscar is what it is and David Diaz well he shouldn't even be mentioned with the other two who they themseves are not really top class.
Man up and quit crying like some pathetic broad~.
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