Hopkins has to be Top 10 ATG....Seriously.

[bojangles1987]

The only argument for Hopkins over Roy Jones is longevity. Roy Jones has more impressive accomplishments and was clearly better in his prime. Roy was still green as well when he fought Bernard, so saying Bernard being green is why he lost to Roy is wrong. Roy at his best is better than Bernard at his best, and combine that with the things Roy did in his career you have a fighter that should go down ahead of Bernard Hopkins all time.

[TheGreatA]

That was at 160 and Oscar didn't even look like he took that fight seriously. Hopkins weighed in at the lowest weight in his career and knocked out someone who'd never been knocked out.

I don't know... can we call Rafael Marquez a legit super bantam? Trinidad didn't just beat Joppy he destroyed him and was clear cut #1 a weight division below.

Hopkins did what he was supposed to do, he smashed all his weak opposition, until he could get in the ring with the stronger opp. and put it on them too.

He still weighed 170 lbs by fight night though.

[Sutekh uvdabrix]

The only argument for Hopkins over Roy Jones is longevity. Roy Jones has more impressive accomplishments and was clearly better in his prime. Roy was still green as well when he fought Bernard, so saying Bernard being green is why he lost to Roy is wrong. Roy at his best is better than Bernard at his best, and combine that with the things Roy did in his career you have a fighter that should go down ahead of Bernard Hopkins all time.

bernards accomplishments before and after and during his prime surpass rjj prime accomplishments..

[IMDAZED]

He still weighed 170 lbs by fight night though.

That whole fight was just...strange. Yes, I know you can box Hopkins but why didn't you just steamroll the little guy?

[bojangles1987]

bernards accomplishments before and after and during his prime surpass rjj prime accomplishments..

I disagree, it's not clear cut either way but Roy beat Bernard at middleweight, winning a title there, moved up to super middle and beat arguably the best P4P fighter at the time in James Toney, won a belt there, went on to win a belt at light heavyweight and absolutely dominate there,winning every alphabet belt, became the first middleweight to win a heavyweight belt in 106 years, and then moved back down and gutted out a win to regain the light heavyweight title. That's damn impressive and I would take that resume over Bernard winning a title in two divisions and his record streak at middleweight.

[djtmal]

Indeed the dude is so overated its not funny..

agreed...how can a lightheavyweight who scaled down to middle get so much credit for beating up on welters, jr. middles, and middles...he only has 1 legit win over a lightheavy to date and since then has only made catchweight fights where smaller men are always moving up at least two divisions to face him...this cat should have been fighting lightheavys and cruisers...cats his size or bigger...

i just don't see him in the same light as say a true all-time great like srl because srl entered boxing @ (jr.) welterweight and challenged his skills by moving up to fight (and beat) bigger men...he didn't move down to lightweight and beat up on smaller men his whole career like hopkins did...his career on paper looks great but when you actually look at who he fought, it doesn't match up...

[rizkybizness]

No he wouldn't, in my opinion, B-Hop would win a very close/ very competitive match. B-Hop in his prime, was a brawler, head to head...B-Hop could hold his own but I wouldn't see much sucess in going toe to toe against Hagler. B-Hop would have to box (Tito, Pavlik, Tarver) and Hagler had really good reach, 15 round stamina and very fast hand speed. It can go either way but I see B-Hop possibly edging it.

literally!! lmfaooooooo

[WhoreUs]

bernards accomplishments before and after and during his prime surpass rjj prime accomplishments..

you don't know ****.

stfu.

[THE REED]

Roy solidified his legacy in his 20's and early 30's

Bernard solidified his legacy in his 30's and early 40's

*Some may say Bernard has better longevity... but what about the guy who got there first?...

Bernard has more names on his resume... but most of them had to move up to beat him

Roy has less names on his resume... but he moved UP to beat all of them..

Bernard has 20 title defenses

Roy was the first MW champion to win a title at HW in 106 yrs... he beat Ruiz AS a Cruiserweight... and then furthered it by regaining the LHW championship immediately after


Bernard may be dominating later in his life.... but in Roys prime he dominated the P4P charts...

There careers are incredibly close, and saying one is better than the other, no question.. is idiotic.

[Chr0nic]

your mother is idiotic...no offence