PPV Numbers?

[FRANKGWJ]

Of course DLH brings in the numbers a lot... but this doesn't mean Floyd has nothing to do with the fight selling against Hatton or De La Hoya... tell me who De La Hoya did 2.4 million buys with when not fighting Floyd, nobody... tell me who Hatton got 900k+ US buys against without Floyd... nobody.

Whichever way you try to look at it, Floyd had an effect on those numbers.

The point is, can floyd do huge numbers with opponents not named Oscar or Hatton?

[brently1979]

Tyson is the King.

DLH is the PPV king.

[brently1979]

The point is, can floyd do huge numbers with opponents not named Oscar or Hatton?

NO. He can NOT.

[Chuckguy]

What you all forget to see is that Oscar always had big numbers
he is on a island all by himself. Ricky had one big PPV and that was with Floyd. OTher than that he sells tickets but selling PPV is different.

The reason Floyd and Oscar was so big was because of on thing and one thing ONLY!!!!

HBO 24/7!

[Spacey1991]

Nope!! Pac has to get the Lion share. Pac can guarantee the excitement. You'll get your money's worth with Pac.

Excitement alone doesn't make change the negotiations of the PPV split. The only reason you think 60/40 Pacquiao is cause you are a fan of him, 50/50 is fair and you know it.

Regardless of whatever in both there last two fights Floyd did better PPV, generating money... Pacquiao has a higher ATG status and better resume and is P4P #1... Floyd was the previous undisputed P4P #1 and nobody proved otherwise. There is a reason why everyone wants Mayweather vs Pacquiao, and it isn't only about Pacquiao.

50/50 is fair - but I don't care as long as we see the fight it aint like it affects me in any way at all.

so true. some of his fans can't talk smack about his quality of comp or him being a ***** so they talk about things nobody gives a crap about, like ppv numbers, commercials, and other senseless crap..

He has fought good quality opposition as much as he can at 140 and below... so you can't say he has bad quality opposition... the only weight he is a little bit thin and and could do more is 147.

Also, the PPV numbers and all that does make sense whatever way you look at it, it shows how much they sell... which determines whether they are deserving of a certain share because of what input they have in the promoting of the fight.

The point is, can floyd do huge numbers with opponents not named Oscar or Hatton?

Can Oscar do 2.4 million without Floyd, can Hatton do 900k+ without Floyd? No cause they haven't, so in which he had a big part to do with those numbers whichever way you look at it, before then was a long time ago and he has raise in popularity since then, to use those numbers from 2006 is not a way to go about it with Pacquiao and Mayweather cause since those fights both have become even more popular.

What you all forget to see is that Oscar always had big numbers
he is on a island all by himself. Ricky had one big PPV and that was with Floyd. OTher than that he sells tickets but selling PPV is different.

The reason Floyd and Oscar was so big was because of on thing and one thing ONLY!!!!

HBO 24/7!

24/7 has LOADS to do with is, of course... but Pacquiao vs Hatton, Pacquiao vs De La Hoya, Jones vs Calzaghe, etc. had 24/7 series too... Oscar is the PPV king no doubt, but completely taking the numbers away from Floyd and saying he had nothing to do with it is insane.



Both guys are very popular and the fight isn't in public demand just because of one fighter... both put there big bid in to make the fight huge and so anticipated, this isn't due to one guy. People think it would be the biggest fight for years, they both do there bit 50/50 is fair.

Like I said though, I don't care about purses... it aint like it affects me, its there back pocket not mine, but all I am doing is giving my opinion on what is fair... which IMO is a 50/50 split. I think they should do 40/40 and the other 20 goes to the winner but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Anyway Floyd has gotta get through JMM first who is a great fighter in his own right and shouldn't be overlooked.

[FRANKGWJ]

Excitement alone doesn't make change the negotiations of the PPV split. The only reason you think 60/40 Pacquiao is cause you are a fan of him, 50/50 is fair and you know it.

Regardless of whatever in both there last two fights Floyd did better PPV, generating money... Pacquiao has a higher ATG status and better resume and is P4P #1... Floyd was the previous undisputed P4P #1 and nobody proved otherwise. There is a reason why everyone wants Mayweather vs Pacquiao, and it isn't only about Pacquiao.

50/50 is fair - but I don't care as long as we see the fight it aint like it affects me in any way at all.



He has fought good quality opposition as much as he can at 140 and below... so you can't say he has bad quality opposition... the only weight he is a little bit thin and and could do more is 147.

Also, the PPV numbers and all that does make sense whatever way you look at it, it shows how much they sell... which determines whether they are deserving of a certain share because of what input they have in the promoting of the fight.



Can Oscar do 2.4 million without Floyd, can Hatton do 900k+ without Floyd? No cause they haven't, so in which he had a big part to do with those numbers whichever way you look at it, before then was a long time ago and he has raise in popularity since then, to use those numbers from 2006 is not a way to go about it with Pacquiao and Mayweather cause since those fights both have become even more popular.



24/7 has LOADS to do with is, of course... but Pacquiao vs Hatton, Pacquiao vs De La Hoya, Jones vs Calzaghe, etc. had 24/7 series too... Oscar is the PPV king no doubt, but completely taking the numbers away from Floyd and saying he had nothing to do with it is insane.



Both guys are very popular and the fight isn't in public demand just because of one fighter... both put there big bid in to make the fight huge and so anticipated, this isn't due to one guy. People think it would be the biggest fight for years, they both do there bit 50/50 is fair.

Like I said though, I don't care about purses... it aint like it affects me, its there back pocket not mine, but all I am doing is giving my opinion on what is fair... which IMO is a 50/50 split. I think they should do 40/40 and the other 20 goes to the winner but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Anyway Floyd has gotta get through JMM first who is a great fighter in his own right and shouldn't be overlooked.

The question is can floyd do 500k without a good name opponent in the ring with him? No, he can't!

[Doctor_Tenma]

It's funny how people dismiss the Hatton US ppv numbers because he sells in the UK. He hasn't had a ppv other than those 2 in the US and if you look at another star from the UK, Joe Calzaghe, he only sold 250k against Roy Jones. Calzaghe isn't as popular, but it shows that there's no real market for UK fighters in the US.

The ones that I'm pretty sure:

Mosley
DLH I- 600k+, DLH II- 900k+, Estrada- 100k+

Pacquiao
Morales I-III- 340-360k+, Barrera II 300k+, Marquez 400k+, Diaz - 225k+

Cotto
Malignaggi 100k+, Judah - I'm not sure, but 225k or 325k, Mosley - 350k+

Mayweather
Gatti 340k+, Judah 350k+, Baldomir 325k+

The Judah fight was 375K I think, I'm not sure but if I remember correctly, think it was 375K.

[Doctor_Tenma]

The question is can floyd do 500k without a good name opponent in the ring with him? No, he can't!

Big deal, only fighter who can do that right now is DLH. Mayweather against a No Namer (Baldomir) did 325K, that aint bad.

[WhoreUs]

pacquiao had more ppv buys against jorge solis and david diaz at 130 and 135 than floyd did against jose luis castillo and diego corrales at 130 and 135.

[FRANKGWJ]

I don't those fights were on PPV. I could be wrong though.