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who's the better southpaw: hagler or pacquaio???
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Originally posted by rocky_balboa23 View Postthe ring belt? Diaz was not the ring champ when Pac beat him..it was Casa..the 4 boxers that Pac beat to gain those 4 ring belts were Chatchai Sasakul, Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera and Hatton..yeah Hagler is definitely and an alltime great but if someone chooses Pac over Hagler then u should not bash him since they also have some evidence to back up their claim..it's everyone's opinion to say who is greater than who as long as they can back it up with proof
but im not changin' my mind, and i dont think you are either, lets jus agree to disagree.
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Originally posted by vErDuGo View PostHearns was moving up when Hagler fought him. Hagler just overpowered him.
Duran?? Are you ****in kidding me? Sure he became a future middleweight but that doesn't make it an all time great win for Hagler ..because he beat Duran, a former lightweight by a decision.
Morales,Barrera,Marquez,DelaHOya.>>>>>>>>rankeed contenders.
a win over Morales was no better than a win over David Diaz or Zahir Raheem...two guys Morales lost to around the time Pacquiao beat him
the Marquez fights are controversial, I had Pacquiao winning the first fight, losing the 2nd. the first fight was a very good win for Pacquiao
DLH was quite old and past his best. Give credit to Pacquiao, but dont go overboard. I knew Pacquiao would beat him for a reason.
look closely. in the top right hand corner, it asks if Hagler is the best middleweight of all time.
...this was a 1982 issue...before the Hearns or Duran fights.
and get over the Hearns/Duran issue. they both were top level at the weight and proved it.
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Originally posted by The_Executioner View PostHe didn't face better fighters than Hagler...and Pacquiao hasn't defended at 135 or 140...
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Originally posted by The_Executioner View PostBarrera- Pacquiao's best win
Morales- weight drained for the 2nd fight and he lost to Raheem before it(whose fault is it?) how bout Hearns moving up to fight Hagler?
Marquez- very good win (yeah controversial but a win is a win)
DLH- weight drained and below his usual fighting weight (weight drained? I dont buy it..again he was sweating profusely during his ring entrance..below his usual weight..true but whose fault is it? Past prime?definitely
Duran at any weight would beat Marquez, Barrera, or Morales. (I dont know bout this, the best weights for those three were of bamtam so if they fought at Bantam,I think 2 out of 3 would beat him..
Hearns won titles from 147 all the way to light heavyweight...
Morales- weight drained for the 2nd fight and he lost to Raheem before it(whose fault is it?) how bout Hearns moving up to fight Hagler?
Marquez- very good win (yeah controversial but a win is a win)
DLH- weight drained and below his usual fighting weight (weight drained? I dont buy it..again he was sweating profusely during his ring entrance..below his usual weight..true but whose fault is it? Past prime?definitely
Duran at any weight would beat Marquez, Barrera, or Morales. (I dont know bout this, the best weights for those three were of bamtam so if they fought at Bantam,I think 2 out of 3 would beat him..
Hearns won titles from 147 all the way to light heavyweight...
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Originally posted by baracuda View Postpatience man....he could'nt win and defend it in 1 night....if floyd fights him,it'll be prolly at ww(if only floyd's still got the belt it'd be his 7th div title) and if it'd be jmm it'll be his 1st defense at 140.
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