if pac beats this monster...

[nujabes77]

In 1940, Armstrong challenged Ceferino Garcia for the World Middleweight Title. Garcia retained the title with a draw, but most at ringside felt that Armstrong had won. A victory would have given Armstrong a fourth divisional title at a time when there were only eight weight divisions.

* Flyweight (Maximum 112 pounds)
* Bantamweight (118)
* Featherweight (126)
* Lightweight (135)
* Welterweight (147)
* Middleweight (160)
* Light Heavyweight (175)
* Heavyweight (unlimited)

He held titles from 126 to 160.

and pacquiao held titles from 112 -135(if you go by the old book). imagine a win at 147...

[-EX-]

No...**** no...you don't become GOAT for beating past prime Shane Mosley...

I don't care how bad he beat em...and he wouldn't be top 15-20 or either.

For Pac to be top 20 in my book he'd have to beat Timothy Bradley and unify 147...in other words...beat Shane, Cotto, and Berto...

[-EX-]

Weightclasses aren't everything. Quality of opposition matters the most...

[thebowtod]

No...**** no...you don't become GOAT for beating past prime Shane Mosley...

I don't care how bad he beat em...and he wouldn't be top 15-20 or either.

For Pac to be top 20 in my book he'd have to beat Timothy Bradley and unify 147...

mosley is not past prime. he may be in two more fights, but he is still game

[nujabes77]

how is shane past his prime? he destroyed margarito like yesterday. guy still game in my book

[Danny Gunz]

but what if he loses

[thebowtod]

but what if he loses

i see what you did there

[Drunken Cat]

In 1940, Armstrong challenged Ceferino Garcia for the World Middleweight Title. Garcia retained the title with a draw, but most at ringside felt that Armstrong had won. A victory would have given Armstrong a fourth divisional title at a time when there were only eight weight divisions.

* Flyweight (Maximum 112 pounds)
* Bantamweight (118)
* Featherweight (126)
* Lightweight (135)
* Welterweight (147)
* Middleweight (160)
* Light Heavyweight (175)
* Heavyweight (unlimited)

He held titles from 126 to 160.

I'm not qualified to compare Henry Armstrong and Pacquioa. Just pointing out Pac's won titles from 112 to 140, which is a span of 38 pounds compared to 34 for Armstrong. If pacman were to actually move up to welterweight at some point and win a title, he will have spanned 45 pounds, which is even more amazing when you consider that he debuted at 106, and he has from his first title fight, and he would have moved up by a body-weight percentage of 40% since his first title at 112 (112 to 140 is 27%).

[Drunken Cat]

No...**** no...you don't become GOAT for beating past prime Shane Mosley...

I don't care how bad he beat em...and he wouldn't be top 15-20 or either.

For Pac to be top 20 in my book he'd have to beat Timothy Bradley and unify 147...in other words...beat Shane, Cotto, and Berto...

What would a fight with Bradley really prove? Bradley was rocked and dropped by Kendall Holt, I would have to believe that Pacquiao would blow him away. Not that it's not a worthy fight, but to say he should fight Bradley (a fighter who just won his first title) over Mosely is completely unrealistic, not to mention that Pacquiao is interested in superfights now and Shane brings something to the table. Besides Pacquiao already beat the man at the weight in Hatton.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind seeing him defend the LWW championship and I would like to see him mix it up with the welters as well, but its all about the benjamins at this stage. I realize you were talking about his ATG status, so I'm kinda going off on a tangent with the talk of the benjamins.