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    Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
    your dumb reply of they dont want none?

    you REALLY think thats what it is? that they dont want none of JuanMa?

    if so then that is really a dumb thing to say

    if you follow the actual sport of boxing and not just certain fighters then you could safely deduce that neither Izzy or Rafa have ducked or been afraid to fight anyone YET now here comes a fighter you support and all of a sudden they dont want none?

    ok smart guy why dont you tell me why they are ducking since thats your statement not mine.

    and is it fair to say the same thing of JuanMa if he doesn't take the Caballero fight since he called JuanMa out much the same JuanMa called both Izzy and Rafa out?

    can't have it both ways
    Both Izzy and Rafa have opted out of fighting the new 122 pound king, Juanma!

    Rafa, decided to take another fight and fought 3 days ago and Izzy doesn't want any either because he decided to move up in weight and fight someone else.

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      Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
      dear God you biases are clouding your train of thought

      first off its very hypocritical to call out fighters for taking more money or basing their fights on how much they get then turn a blind eye when it comes to fighters that you like or are your nationality.

      secondly you really show some true bias in calling Caballero a mere contender when he now holds two of the four major belts and yet have the nerve to call Marquez one of the two best when he hold no belts whatsoever and hasn't fought at 122 since his with Vazquez

      to me it smells like you are hoping for JuanMa to fight either one of these guys knowing they went through three wars with each other for nothing more than it bringing the most money rather than fight arguably the champ at his division in Caballero in what would be JuanMa's toughest challenge to date
      First of all do you understan what Im trying to say? You cant expect Juanma to get less moeny to fight Caballero thats idiotic thought by you and by whoever thinks that. Im not saying Juanma deserves FLoyd,Pacquiao DLH money, all Im saying is that if Caballero really wants the fight, he cant be asking more money han Juanma, because Juanma is the draw and no matter what he is the one bringing the $$ for the fight not caballero.

      Second Cabllero and Juanma both are mere contnders compare to vazquez and Marquez who are already proven. Caballero having 2 belts means ****, he aint the champ of the division, the champ is Vazquez. You are the one *****g the excuses now, because your natiunality and dont want vazquez and Marquez to get whoop by Juanma. You suggesting Caballero is a toiugher challenge proves it. And ofcourse I want Juanma to fight Vazquez thats a lineal fight right there. Vazquez and Marquez are way better fighter than cballero still and this point of their careers.

      Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
      you are the biggest hypocrite on here

      so when JuanMa calls out Izzy or Rafa you think its ok but when a fighter with not one but two major belts in JuanMa's division calls him out it's not about ****?

      I already said this, calling people means ****. Put up or shut. Juanma is willing to fight those, is Caballero the same? I mean yiu cant run your mouth and then say well he wont figt me becaue I want more money than him.

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        its true though i feel like juanma is being unrealistic with his choices,vazquez just off eye surgery and marquez is barely had a tune up,they really need to fight

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          Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
          Cabellero has made about 9 straight title defenses and has two belts and he doesnt deserve the lion's share? Come on.
          Who brings the money to the table? Thaqts right!!!!!!!!!!!

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            Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
            floyd has how many belts currently when compared to marquez? floyd has what p4p spot currently when compared to marquez? what's the split on their fight?

            the purse goes to the biggest attraction, not to the one with most belts. juanma is a bigger attraction AND a belt holder. do you think that caballero deserves the lion's share against vazquez too just because he has a belt more?
            Well said!

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              Originally posted by SAN D13GO VILLAN View Post
              Both Champions 50/50 down the middle and make this fight ****en happen!
              You know **** doesnt work like that

              Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
              your dumb reply of they dont want none?

              you REALLY think thats what it is? that they dont want none of JuanMa?

              if so then that is really a dumb thing to say

              if you follow the actual sport of boxing and not just certain fighters then you could safely deduce that neither Izzy or Rafa have ducked or been afraid to fight anyone YET now here comes a fighter you support and all of a sudden they dont want none?

              ok smart guy why dont you tell me why they are ducking since thats your statement not mine.

              and is it fair to say the same thing of JuanMa if he doesn't take the Caballero fight since he called JuanMa out much the same JuanMa called both Izzy and Rafa out?

              can't have it both ways
              And he called me bias and a hipocrit,

              LMAo jajajajaja

              Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
              floyd has how many belts currently when compared to marquez? floyd has what p4p spot currently when compared to marquez? what's the split on their fight?

              the purse goes to the biggest attraction, not to the one with most belts. juanma is a bigger attraction AND a belt holder. do you think that caballero deserves the lion's share against vazquez too just because he has a belt more?

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                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                Who brings the money to the table? Thaqts right!!!!!!!!!!!
                hmmm..... are you talking about PBF or JML?

                Originally posted by juancho View Post
                its true though i feel like juanma is being unrealistic with his choices,vazquez just off eye surgery and marquez is barely had a tune up,they really need to fight
                I don't think JML is being unrealistic, but he's gotta let vasquez and marquez get some tune ups. he can't be trying to catch them after 3 war and a long layoff. that's a biitch move.

                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                First of all do you understan what Im trying to say? You cant expect Juanma to get less moeny to fight Caballero thats idiotic thought by you and by whoever thinks that.
                sounds like PBF talk to me... it's hypocritical to ***** on floyd for talking like that and then turn around and say its ok for JML. not saying that you do that, but if you do, then its hypocritical.

                Im not saying Juanma deserves FLoyd,Pacquiao DLH money, all Im saying is that if Caballero really wants the fight, he cant be asking more money han Juanma, because Juanma is the draw and no matter what he is the one bringing the $$ for the fight not caballero.
                caballero has 2 belts tho. neither guy should get the lion's share imho.

                Second Cabllero and Juanma both are mere contnders compare to vazquez and Marquez who are already proven. Caballero having 2 belts means ****, he aint the champ of the division, the champ is Vazquez.
                good point here. but cabalero has the hardware and JML has the money, then the purse split should be pretty even.

                You are the one *****g the excuses now, because your natiunality and dont want vazquez and Marquez to get whoop by Juanma.
                c'mon man... u are pretty biased. but who isn't.

                You suggesting Caballero is a toiugher challenge proves it.
                its possible that he is, considering vasquez and marquez just went through 3 career ending wars and a long lay off. at this particular moment in time, caballero could actually be a tougher challenge.

                And ofcourse I want Juanma to fight Vazquez thats a lineal fight right there. Vazquez and Marquez are way better fighter than cballero still and this point of their careers.
                man i dunno. vasquez and marquez are bigger names, but they been to hell and back. can't really gauge if they're past it now or not.

                I already said this, calling people means ****. Put up or shut. Juanma is willing to fight those, is Caballero the same? I mean yiu cant run your mouth and then say well he wont figt me becaue I want more money than him.
                well caballero does have 2 belts to JML's 1. he has an valid case for his argument.

                Originally posted by PRPOWERPUNCHES View Post
                Both Izzy and Rafa have opted out of fighting the new 122 pound king, Juanma!
                when did that happen? who did JML beat to be the new 122 pound king?

                Rafa, decided to take another fight and fought 3 days ago and Izzy doesn't want any either because he decided to move up in weight and fight someone else.
                these dudes just fought 3 career ending fights. I think they deserve a tune up and some leeway.



                come on, Ricans, I like JML and I think he is the future at 130-122 lbs, but this is the present not the future. JML needs to not talk like he's PBF and JML fans need to not make excuses and arguments like PBF fans.

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                  Its time to a real challenge and woop Celestino

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                    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                    OMFG!!! why is JML talking like he's floyd mayweather???


                    ...../

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                      Please. Caballero is overrated and will get his due in time. All this talk is bluster as Caballero knows full well that he can't make 122 any longer and he should count his blessing for getting by the South African in his last fight. Juanma would KO him at about the 6-7 round, if that, if they meet at 122. They will meet in 126, thats for sure, and though Juanma will win it will be a much better fight.

                      I welcome Caballero's comments; maybe it will help him get some fans that will actually pay him to see him fight thus making his meeting with Juanma a reality in the near future. In the meantime, Juanma is looking towards building his overall career (he does have 5 mouths to feed btw) and has publicly stated that he wants the ring that five defenses at 122 brings. He is almost there and will go up to 126 in early 2010 at the latest. This next fight is just a move to get in Top Ranks good graces. Very smart in my opinion. To paraphrase Roach after the Penalosa fight, I dont see ANYONE beating Juanma at 122 or 126.

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