Not going to respond to all the nonsense about Mosley cheating and Margarito cheating but I will say this.....Mosley is a bigger draw than Mayweather.....
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Shane "THE JUICE MAN" Mosley Dont need Mayweather, He is the DRAW !!! ^__^
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Originally posted by Ravishing View PostThe entire post...
You're calling out Shane all of a sudden now that he's in the running to fight Floyd but now Shane isn't worthy? He KO'd the guy nobody thought could be KO'd at 37 yrs old. Who's really running around crying about Shane's steroid use? He addressed the issue (sometime ago I might add) and people have moved on. There hasn't been any cases in Boxing where one guy's steroid use permanately hurt an opponent.
My question is why WOULDN'T you want to see them fight? This whole "X___________ isn't worthy to fight Floyd" is such bull**** LOL. Trust me, in a few months you'll be signing a different tune.
I wouldnt mind seeing the fight as long as Mayweather enforce a drug test and blood test 2 weeks before the fight.
Because we know how the JUICE MAN like to do things
This whole "X___________ isn't worthy to fight Floyd" is such bull****
Really is it. I am pretty sure other fighters used the same standard because other wise, we would see Manny Pacquiao vs. Victor Ortiz but obviously victor has not earn his shot at Pacquiao yet. So he isnt worthy of fighting Pacquiao.
But if this wasnt the case, then we shouldnt care who fighters fight, because all fighters would be worthy of a fight reguardless the circumstances.Last edited by Horus; 06-02-2009, 09:33 PM.
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Originally posted by Horus View PostI never understood how boxingscene can **** on Margarito for trying to cheat before the Mosley Fight and Not get on Mosley for actually cheating for probably years.
Like gonzo2312003 said
I never understood How Mosley can get a complete pass for this and now should be rewarded with with a big money fight with BOXING's biggest stars who have never been accusted of cheating or who actually cheated..
wtf?
What kind Message does that send ?
If cheat and your a nice guy you can get away with it?
To make things worst, Mosley is not even a draw.
Because If Mosley was such a draw
Why wasnt his fight with Margarito on P.P.V?
Why wasnt his fight with Mayorga on P.P.V?
If Mosely wants a big money fight
Why cant Mosley fight Paul Williams or Andre Berto and take a 80-20 split of the pot and take a 80-20 split in the P.P.v earnings too.
and it will still be a big money fight sense Mosley is such a draw.
and to put it in Mosley favor, all the fights can be in Los Angeles.
Why isnt Mosely making these fights happen if he is such a draw and wants a big money fight, I am sure HBO would give any of his fight a at least a 15 million dollar budget?
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Originally posted by Horus View PostI never understood how boxingscene can **** on Margarito for trying to cheat before the Mosley Fight and Not get on Mosley for actually cheating for probably years.
Like gonzo2312003 said
I never understood How Mosley can get a complete pass for this and now should be rewarded with with a big money fight with BOXING's biggest stars who have never been accusted of cheating or who actually cheated..
wtf?
What kind Message does that send ?
If cheat and your a nice guy you can get away with it?
To make things worst, Mosley is not even a draw.
Because If Mosley was such a draw
Why wasnt his fight with Margarito on P.P.V?
Why wasnt his fight with Mayorga on P.P.V?
If Mosely wants a big money fight
Why cant Mosley fight Paul Williams or Andre Berto and take a 80-20 split of the pot and take a 80-20 split in the P.P.v earnings too.
and it will still be a big money fight sense Mosley is such a draw.
and to put it in Mosley favor, all the fights can be in Los Angeles.
Why isnt Mosely making these fights happen if he is such a draw and wants a big money fight, I am sure HBO would give any of his fight a at least a 15 million dollar budget?
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Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View PostHorus I like you and we usually converse but this attack is ****** and uncalled for. I never run my mouth about Floyd I often defend some of the stuff I see getting stretched out by his haters. You called me out in another thread I posted and I am choosing to reply in your thread my friend. You are comparing bricks to roids. You are asking me if Shane deserves the hall of fame and you are telling me that you deny his accomplishments in the ring because of a mistake he made and admitted too. Ok here it is sure Shane used The Cream and The Clear before his 2003 fight with Oscar. He admitted it in front of a grand jury but he also said he was unaware of the fact that these substances were on the banned list. The manufacturer BALCO told him they were clean and he would never fail a dirty test. He was lied too by his nutritionist or maybe his nutritionist was misinformed. he admitted what he had done and he moved on. oscar never creid about it and most people have forgotten about it. You want to know what I really think of Floyd i will tell you a real ****** a$$wipe that can't control his money or his mouth. he has tons of talent but can't seem to remember all the lies he tells when he is being interviewed damn he aint even smart enough to come up with one story and stick to it. I think he has the skills to be something really great but he lacks the balls and the brains to do it. Sure JMM is a great fighter with tons of heart and for a 3-1 payout I will take a shot on JMM will mellow_mood but truly Floyd hasn't fought a real threat since Jose Luis Castillo in 2002. Yeah I really can't blame him if his fan boys are ****** enough to pay $$$ to see him dance around like on dancing with the stars he was damn good on that show because he had tons of practice in the ring right!!! Honestly your a funny guy sir a prime Mosley would eat Floyds breakfast in front of him and then tell Floyd to wash his dishes too. Probably call up Oscar and ask him to borrow the fishnets so Floyd could sport them around the house. Since Floyd like getting up in mens faces maybe he would enjoy that ish? Tell you the truth even this version of Mosley might have him on the block with his shirt in a knot Horus...Lefty
You lefty,
Can called what Mosley did a mistake, but I called it cheating.
and the difference is, I hold no sympathy in my heart for cheaters.
Especially in a sport where one shot can killed you.
And to simply brush off what Mosley did is something I am not cool with,
because what about the fighters who didnt cheat and had their careers cut short because of injuries. What about the fighters who had to get in the ring with a steroid using Mosley and a plaster up Margarito, and basically put their lives in danger because these guys wanted to take the easy way out to glory and fame instead of putting the work in.
**** I would fight everybody too if i had plaster in my gloves or if i was using steroids. wouldnt you? because you know you would have an advantage the other fighter wouldnt have. That right there lets me know that these guys are cowards. and to simply say
"öh we all forgot about it, and it is cool now"and to not consider the consequences of those actiond, is what I like to called fucking bull****.
Margarito got his career basically ended for cheating what happen to mosely?
Barry Bonds is now a black sheep in baseball for cheating what happen to mosely?
Cheating is unacceptable, and Especially the kind of cheating that can seriously damage another persons life.
You want to know what I really think of Floyd i will tell you a real ****** a$$wipe that can't control his money or his mouth. he has tons of talent but can't seem to remember all the lies he tells when he is being interviewed damn he aint even smart enough to come up with one story and stick to it. I think he has the skills to be something really great but he lacks the balls and the brains to do it. Sure JMM is a great fighter with tons of heart and for a 3-1 payout I will take a shot on JMM will mellow_mood but truly Floyd hasn't fought a real threat since Jose Luis Castillo in 2002. Yeah I really can't blame him if his fan boys are ****** enough to pay $$$ to see him dance around like on dancing with the stars he was damn good on that show because he had tons of practice in the ring right!!! Honestly your a funny guy sir a prime Mosley would eat Floyds breakfast in front of him and then tell Floyd to wash his dishes too. Probably call up Oscar and ask him to borrow the fishnets so Floyd could sport them around the house. Since Floyd like getting up in mens faces maybe he would enjoy that ish? Tell you the truth even this version of Mosley might have him on the block with his shirt in a knot Horus...Lefty
Say what you want about Floyd.
But what you cant say is that he is a cheater.
What you cant say is that he doesnt bust his ass in the gym the right way.
What you cant say is that he didnt take the hard road to get where he is at today.
Say what you will about him.
But How many fighters you know moved up 5 weight divisions. In a era where most fighters like to stay in one division to have a advantage.
How many fighters can say they won 3 lineal champions in the 5 division they been in, while remaining undefeated ..
Floyd will always be about mosley for the simple fact that he did take the cowards way out, instead he put the horus in the gym and did it the right way.
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Originally posted by Bhopreign View PostSad people trying to defend Shane Mosley for cheating.
I am not a hypocrite. If I going to **** on Margarito for cheating, then i must apply the same standard for mosley for his cheating..
cheating is the worst thing you can do in sports especially in the sport of boxing, where you have people putting their lives on the line.
just think about the fighters who had to fight mosley margarito and vargas while their was trying to cheat their way to the top.
what about them?
how much money do you think those lost since losing those fights to those cheaters...?
Sorry if i offend you guys, but i show no symphany for cheaters none.
if floyd was every found out to be taking steroids or loading gloves. that would be the last day i would be a fan of his. because what that would tell me is that, what floyd accomplish wasnt based on talent, skill, or smarts.
it tells me that if he cheated, that what floyd accomplish was based on the fact he had a unfair and illegal advantage over the other fighter which allow him to win.
so fuck cheaters. imo period.Last edited by Horus; 06-02-2009, 10:24 PM.
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