Mayweather’s Hit List Includes Pacquiao, Mosley, Cotto

[Sugar Adam Ali]

and you completely ignore the fact that manny's legs were lightyears away from what they used to be, instead focusing on TBE. the luxury of having freaking legs was gone! hello? is anybody home?

you're all predictable, to say the least.

Manny sure had good legs vs algieri who is a mover.. And manny closed the gap anytime he wanted to vs floyd, but Floyd's right hand basically tamed manny in the first few rounds.. If manny fought like he did in Rds 4,6,9,10 then he probably wins a fight..
But floyd put on a Jedi mind trick and made manny hesitant to be aggressive.. Manny's legs n punches seemed find in the few spots he got aggressive, it was just that he had no answer for Floyd's right hands.. I have watched the fight 3 times and it's always Floyd's right disrupting and controlling the action...

[The Gambler1981]

And you sound more and more ignorant. What exactly did Mosley, Marquez (Especially in III) and Bradley for most of the first fight do? They controlled distance, kept Pacquiao turning, unfortunately for Mosley he couldn't pull the trigger but the other two were able to capitalize. Marquez did so well because he possessed the straight right hand to challenge pacquiao's darting in and out, as well as the discipline to stay consistent unlike Tim.

In fact how about Cotto, you can say survival mode all you want but how exactly did Pacquaio look in the later stages of that fight? I'd say amateurish really.

Yep and anyone who talked about Floyd versus Manny brought that stuff up, but it was always something like Manny dominated the fight what is the issue so that won't help Floyd.


I am going to laugh hard as hell if Manny comes back and beats Crawford, although he does have a straight right.

[IMDAZED]

according you to, mayweather wasn't in his prime at all at welterweight. you should go back way further than shane

that's f#cking ******ed, of course, and your card has subsequently been pulled on determining what it means for a fighter to be in his is prime.


and yes, moneyteamers; he actually said that. you guys go to freaking lengths.

Another red herring. Don't try to switch the topic -- although I know you really wanna talk about me and Floyd fans

If you believe Mayweather was in his prime when he fought Mosley, Cotto and Pacquiao then it's you that's ******ed.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Didn't matter if Pacquiao was as fast as the road runner, Mayweather's right hand, like Marquez and Morales' would have made Pacquiao tentative. People are too accustomed to what he did against Hatton, Cotto and DLH. As great as those performances were, look closer.

[New England]

Manny sure had good legs vs algieri who is a mover.. And manny closed the gap anytime he wanted to vs floyd, but Floyd's right hand basically tamed manny in the first few rounds.. If manny fought like he did in Rds 4,6,9,10 then he probably wins a fight..
But floyd put on a Jedi mind trick and made manny hesitant to be aggressive.. Manny's legs n punches seemed find in the few spots he got aggressive, it was just that he had no answer for Floyd's right hands.. I have watched the fight 3 times and it's always Floyd's right disrupting and controlling the action...

perfect opportunity to ignore the plodding for virtually all of the fight.


you think manny's legs are "fine?" they were "good" vs algieri?

did you sleep through his prime, or forget what he used to look like?

[Johnwoo8686]

floyd's the best head to head fighter of the era, but manny has the better resume. he has wins over hall of famers at or near their primes, and his WW resume benefits from the fact that he's a genuinely smaller man. floyd fans dispute this as a way to discredit the manny resume. history books will not.


i'd have picked floyd to win a decision at any point or weight in their careers.

i spent a few grand to fly me and my father out to see floyd mayweather. i'm a fan. i call things like i see them on bscene. i'm human, and i do have biases, but they're nothing liek the ones you see from posters who consistently find themselves on one side of the childish, often raced based, manny - floyd war.

The bold is completely false. Manny has no wins over hall of fame fighters in their primes. Barrera and Morales were both a step past their best days. By the time Manny got to them they were already thinking about retirement, just go back and watch the footage of both fights. I know both guys were 29 when Pacquiao first stepped in the ring with them but remember that they had 50 to 60 fights already under their belts, some of them being wars.

Manny himself has called the De La Hoya fight "the biggest win" of his career and we all know Oscar was way past it. This is the problem with boxing fans, they fall for the hype way too easily. Name one sure fire hall of famer that Manny has beat at the prime of his career, not coming off of several losses. There aren't any.

[DuttyAlacrity]

floyd's the best head to head fighter of the era, but manny has the better resume. he has wins over hall of famers at or near their primes, and his WW resume benefits from the fact that he's a genuinely smaller man. floyd fans dispute this as a way to discredit the manny resume. history books will not.


i'd have picked floyd to win a decision at any point or weight in their careers.

i spent a few grand to fly me and my father out to see floyd mayweather. i'm a fan. i call things like i see them on bscene. i'm human, and i do have biases, but they're nothing liek the ones you see from posters who consistently find themselves on one side of the childish, often raced based, manny - floyd war.

I can respect that. I don't agree with manny having the better resume though. Eric morales and MAB were also past prime and post wars no? they retired shortly there after (Eric did have a short little stint at higher weight classes but he was a shell). Jmm is his best win(s) but they were all contested by fans and media alike.

As far as his ww run those were all against fighters that were past prime based on your argument. Save for cotto he fought those guys after Floyd. I won't mention the whole weight limit catch weight debacle because both fighters are guilty and I'm not sure if history will care. What I believe benefits pacquiao is the manner in which he won those fights but that's his style. He's an explosive puncher. Mayweather is a slick defensive fighter.
When it's all said and done what I believe history will remember is rankings by the media. The ring has been around since 1908 it's "the bible of boxing" and mayweather has beaten number of fighters that were universally ranked as top opposition while remaining undefeated.

I appreciate the response though. One last thing you didn't say where you would rank Floyd as an ATG

[Sugar Adam Ali]

perfect opportunity to ignore the plodding for virtually all of the fight.


you think manny's legs are "fine?" they were "good" vs algieri?

did you sleep through his prime, or forget what he used to look like?

Maybe it wasn't his legs but rather Floyd's right hand and movement

When did prime manny ever fight anyone like floyd...

What will you think when manny in his next few fights lets his hands go and dominates like he did vs rios, Bradley, algieri..

Manny may not be peak, but neither is floyd but both were clearly top 4 guys p4p and both elite.. To act like manny is some sold shot fighter with no legs is just not accurate

[Doctor_Tenma]

Was Pacquiao's legs legendary against Mosley, when an old Mosley who's never been noted for his boxing kept Pacquiao turning? It was so bad that ****m Richardson came out and said Pacquiao was exposed, despite losing every round, please comprehend how bad it was. How about when Cotto who was half dead and kept Pcquiao turning as well in the later stages? Fact of the matter is, Mayweather was gonna do that and add a multidimensional offense to go with it. Marquez did it first though, so credit to him as well.

[IMDAZED]

lol AGREED! No matter what he does "haters" will come up with something that works for there agenda.

People need to remember who there talking about. This is MAYWEATHER. He DISCREDITS everyone. Thats what he does, thats why he sells, thats why the HBO 24/7 is a HIT when he's on it.....

Why do you think this would change when talking about future potential fights?

Mayweather Haters are simple minded fools........

If he were to fight and beat Mosley, Haters would say Mosley was OLD/SHOT and or a **** fighter
If he were to fight and beat Cotto, Haters would say he was ruined by Marg and or just a **** fighter

If he were to fight and beat Pac, Haters would say Pac was too small, never had a chance and or just a **** fighter
If he were to fight and beat Ortiz, Haters would say he was green, never had a chance and or a **** fighter
If he were to fight and beat BOTH Klits at the same time, Haters would say they were weight drained, too big too slow, shot, old and or just **** fighters.

If he were to fight and beat anyone they will discredit him. Its a fact. My question to the haters is, which one of your favorite fighters did Mayweather beat that made you so angry?

Jealousy is a ***** and the Haters should stop making it so obvious. Its really pathetic and sad because no matter what he says and does in and out of the ring someone must hate. The REALLY sad part about it is. They pay his bills.... So haters get on your job and hate. Mayweather said he's back and will continue to fight after beating JMM..... which will just eat some people up inside....

Upping again.

Cheers, Wess