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    Why Does Pacquiao Need a Handicap to Beat Cotto, Mosley & Mayweather?

    By Manuel Perez: Recently, Manny Pacquiao has picked up the tendency to fight opponents out of their weight class, making Oscar De La Hoya have to move down to 147 in order to fight him. This resulted in De La Hoya having to diet drastically to make weight, leaving weak and only a shell of his former self. Pacquiao then goes out and beats Oscar badly, leaving the perception with the boxing public that Pacquiao beat a prime De La Hoya and not a fighter that had to basically diet down to a weight that he hadn’t fought in years.

    I don’t know about you, but I don’t see how Pacquiao can be given any kind of pound for pound attention when Manny isn’t able to meet De La Hoya at his normal weight. Roach says that he’s just looking out for his fighter by making Pacquiao’s bigger opponents have to come down to unrealistic weight requirements in order to fight Pacquiao.

    Now, Roach is trying to duplicate this with fights against Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley, letting them know that if they want to fight Pacquiao then they’ll have to strip down to a skinny, weight drained 142 to make it happen. It seems to me that his is nothing more than cherry picking at the finest.

    Pacquiao walks around at 148, and if he can’t fight meet a fighter like Mosley or Cotto, both of whom fight at 147, at the welterweight limit, then they should just scrap the idea altogether and let Pacquiao continue to fight the David Diaz’s of the world. Fair is fair.

    There’s no victory over an opponent that is forced to strip off muscle in order to make a fight happen, because the version of the fighter that Pacquiao ends up fighting is a weak, weight drained version and not a prime one.

    If you don’t believe me, try getting in really good shape and then having to take off five pounds of muscle to take a fight. Yes, you could do it but you’d be weaker than you were before you started and you’d be in trouble against a fighter that is used to fighting at the smaller weight.

    What gets me is that Roach is okay with Pacquiao fighting De La Hoya at 147, but he’s not okay with Pacquiao fighting Mosley or Cotto at the same weight. Obviously, Roach knows that he needs them both to be as weak as possible for Pacquiao to beat them.

    That’s the real key, they have to be weak otherwise they’ll wipe the deck with Pacquiao and Roach probably knows this. That’s why any victories that Pacquiao would get over either one of them have to be looked at in the larger picture of what they were forced to do in order to get a fight with Pacquiao in the first place.

    It’s like saying, ‘hey, if you want to fight my guy you have to be extra weight otherwise the fights’ not going to happen.’ If that’s the case, then what is it will all this pound for pound stuff? You can’t reward a fighter that makes other fighters have to be weak before they fight you, because that isn’t what the sport is all about. It’s about fairness, not handicapping your opponent so much that you beat them.

    If Pacquiao needs handicaps to win his fights, then he needs to go back down and fight someone his own size. I suppose then they’d dream up some other handicap to find to leave them at a disadvantage, too.




    i think the reason for the needed handicap is pretty obvious. where do they find these writers? lol.

    #2
    This guy really has it in for Pacquiao, but what he is saying is true. IMO Pac should fight WW's at WW or at the very least a catchweight of 145. If he's not big enough to fight them, then don't. It's not fair and he get's no credit whatsoever beating weight drained versions of great fighters.

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      #3
      lol, what an idiot. Yeah, Pacquiao will only fight Klitschko at a catch weight, what a *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Who cares really? All those guys WANT to fight pacquiao, I don't hear pacquiao calling out names trying his hardest to fight them. Right now PAC is sitting on top of the world and everyone and their mama is trying to get a piece of him. These big guys are drooling at the chance to fight him because they know they would get PAID. Pac will get paid no matter who he fights, so it's no big deal to him. Not so much for these bigger guys. They are in NO position to demand pac come up in weight class to fight him, no its the other way around. If they want Pac, they will have to go down and that's exactly what we've already been seeing, guys like cotto already going on record stating they would go down in weight to fight him. Same scenario with Marquez and mayweather.
      Last edited by ИATAS; 05-19-2009, 03:43 PM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
        lol, what an idiot. Yeah, Pacquiao will only fight Klitschko at a catch weight, what a *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Who cares really? All those guys WANT to fight pacquiao, I don't hear pacquiao calling out names trying his hardest to fight them. Right now PAC is sitting on top of the world and everyone and their mama is trying to get a piece of him. These big guys are drooling at the chance to fight him because they know they would get PAID. Pac will get paid no matter who he fights, so it's no big deal to him. Not so much for these bigger guys. They are in NO position to demand pac come up in weight class to fight him, no its the other way around. If they want Pac, they will have to go down and that's exactly what we've already been seeing, guys like cotto already going on record stating they would go down in weight to fight him. Same scenario with Marquez and mayweather.
        Yea they may be calling Pac out, but mainly because he has fought at WW once already and it didn't look to have any negative effect on him whatsoever. If he's done it once he can surely do it again, especially considering his natural weight class now is JWW. Also there are catchweights and then there's plain lodsidedness, and Roach wanting to fight Cotto at 140 is such a mismatch. I just hope Cotto and Mosely don't budge on the weight and make Pac fight the guys at 140 or below. Pac needs these guys just as much as they need him.

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          #5
          Apparently this guy thinks Pacman is a REAL welterweight


          His whole logic is FAIL because PACMAN is the small guy moving up, so ther big guys have to move down a little...

          that way they are both hindered equally..

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            #6
            I only have 1 question for these haters...

            pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton... when was the last time these potential opponents (cotto, mosley, pbf, etc...) officially weighed 138 lbs???!!!

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              #7
              Pacq needs to fight bradley then! Enuff with the special effects! you dont want to fight the best at their best then go fight somebody else! The author is saying wat most of us think outside the pacq fans!

              I give pacq all the credit in the world for the hatton victory but after that whats has he really done besides smoke and mirrors!

              This shyt is no different than the BS that PBF is doing so he gets no pass.

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                #8
                Originally posted by jching View Post
                Yea they may be calling Pac out, but mainly because he has fought at WW once already and it didn't look to have any negative effect on him whatsoever. If he's done it once he can surely do it again, especially considering his natural weight class now is JWW. Also there are catchweights and then there's plain lodsidedness, and Roach wanting to fight Cotto at 140 is such a mismatch. I just hope Cotto and Mosely don't budge on the weight and make Pac fight the guys at 140 or below. Pac needs these guys just as much as they need him.
                pac fighting at 147 was a one time deal against dlh. roach himself said pac would not fight at 147 again.

                unless cotto or mosley can guarantee pac dlh-like paydays, they will have to fight at a catchweight if they want to fight pac.

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                  #9
                  It all started with Morales, Roach didnt want the fight to happen at 135 and 132 because he said that would be giving morales the advantage but now you see him (Paq) fighting at 140 and 147. I know it's not Manny the one wanting to fight dehydrated fighters but his corner can be sneacky, and some fighters are just dumb enough to fall for it! all for the money.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                    Apparently this guy thinks Pacman is a REAL welterweight


                    His whole logic is FAIL because PACMAN is the small guy moving up, so ther big guys have to move down a little...

                    that way they are both hindered equally..
                    Disagreed! Whats more difficult? Gaining weight that you already hit the scales at during your fight(in essence not worrying about weight) or cutting weight past the weight you struggle/battle to hit the day before the bout?

                    As a fan of RJJ, I would expect you to know better! If not then ask yourself why he looked like shyt during the 1st Tarver fight and recall the Tarver vs Hopkins fight!

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