This have been done soooo many times.. I got Bruce Lee all the way.
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bruce lee vs any boxer (106lbs to 240lbs)
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Bruce was also trained in Western boxing and won the 1958 Boxing Championship match against 3-time champion Gary Elms by knockout in the 3rd round. Before arriving to the finals against Elms, Lee had knocked out 3 straight boxers in the first round.
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Originally posted by bsrizpac View PostI've actually studied Jeet Kun Do under someone who was trained by Dan Inosanto. I'm almost dead certain I know more about it than you.
I am aware he taught, thanks captain obvious.
I ask the question again: Who did he fight. How many fights? What did they look like? What were the rules?
Since you guys worship him as a FIGHTER who could beat ANYONE under any rules, I'd just like some evidence, thanks.
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Originally posted by The_Golden_Boi View PostBruce was also trained in Western boxing and won the 1958 Boxing Championship match against 3-time champion Gary Elms by knockout in the 3rd round. Before arriving to the finals against Elms, Lee had knocked out 3 straight boxers in the first round.
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Originally posted by larrysmith View Postman i grew up on that **** so dont speak what you dont know homie..bruce was the real deal..if you studied it then you know that..since he invented it
My critique has always been of him as a fighter? Not a an instructor. Or even a martial artist (not all martial artists are fighters).
So stick to the topic. He didn't "invent" JKD. JKD was a philosophy. Jun Fan was what he called his art. His original art was Wing Chun. He knew about Three different styles in the beginning (under Yip Man). JKD is what was sold as his "art" but he meant it more as a philosophy not an "art".
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Originally posted by liam_48@msn.com View Postcase isnt closed he was a damn actor. Next you'll be saying Jean claud Van Dame or even Steven Seagal could beat Marvin Hagler or Carlos Monson up.Originally posted by Oasis_Lad View PostPlenty of boxers would knock seven shades of **** out of Lee.
Bruce could beat anyone when he was alive and he stated that. Noone challenged him on it cos they agreed with him. When Segal boasted about his aikido skills and how hard he was, world champs chased him down and challenged him left right and centre. They couldnt do that with bruce and wouldnt do that to him, especially if they had encountered him in sparring or whatever. Only nutcase triads on film sets had the balls to.
Bruce even said to Gene Tunneys son that he would have beaten his dad. Bruce Lee walked the walk. Only when bruce died did people imply stuff about bruce. Bruce Lee always said things to peoples face and not behind their backs.
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Originally posted by larrysmith View Postthank you..people dont understand he was a boxer before anything....
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I wrote a thread on this subject on a ******* forum back in the day and happened to have it saved on My documents. Here's a copy of what I "wasn't " able to verify.
One thing that concerns me is Bruce Lee's boxing record. People make claim to his undefeated streak, but a lot of it is very hard to verify. Here’s what I found in [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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FIGHT RECORD:
1955: William Cheung, Hong Kong..................................Exch.
1957: Wong Shun-Leung, Hong Kong.............................Exch
1958: Pu Chang, Hong Kong............................................KO 2
1958: Gary Elms, USA............................................... ......Won
1960: Unknown, Seattle, Washington, USA.....................KO 1
1960: Uechi, Location unavailable...................................KO 1(0:10)
1963: Unknown, Hong Kong.............................................K O
1965: Wong Jack-Man, Oakland, California, USA............KO 1
TOTAL FIGHTS / WON / KNOCKOUTS / LOST
6/ 6/ 5/ 0
* record may contain errors or be incomplete. Compiled from articles, computer web-pages, books, and ****zine articles.
Due to the warning at the bottom of the page and the multiple "unknown" listed, I decided to look more into these fights, starting with Gary Elms since he is both American and the one of the only other fighter mentioned on other Bruce Lee pages. I looked on some links:
"No Data Found"
According to the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] "1958 (Age 18): ??? - Bruce enters the 1958 Boxing Championships and defeats the reigning three year champion, Gary Elms." Yet there is no record of a 3 year champion named Gary Elms. Furthermore a Google search of Gary Elms only brings up Bruce Lee fan sites that mention the fight. A Wikipedia search also brings no information.
Deciding to look into some other fighters on the list, I came up with the following:
1958 or 1959:Against Chung on a rooftop in Hong Kong. (Won in 2nd Round).
1960 or 1961:vs. Uechi. (Won in 10 seconds)
I have been unable to verify either of the two reported boxing matches except from the above FAQ site.
Does anyone have more information concerning the Bruce Lee boxing record? So far it is looking quite unverifiable.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostNah dont think so. Boxers can only beat bruce lee after he dies and most probably only in their dreams.
Bruce could beat anyone when he was alive and he stated that. Noone challenged him on it cos they agreed with him. When Segal boasted about his aikido skills and how hard he was, world champs chased him down and challenged him left right and centre. They couldnt do that with bruce and wouldnt do that to him, especially if they had encountered him in sparring or whatever. Only nutcase triads on film sets had the balls to.
Bruce even said to Gene Tunneys son that he would have beaten his dad. Bruce Lee walked the walk. Only when bruce died did people imply stuff about bruce. Bruce Lee always said things to peoples face and not behind their backs.
Segal was an Aikido guy. They don't even spar live. Big deal beating him or scaring him. IN fact: Judo Gene (remember him) Choked the **** out of Seagal on the set of one of his **** movies.
Judo Gene is also the same guy who owned Lee in sparring.
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Originally posted by bsrizpac View PostDid you even read what I wrote? of course he was an instructor? So what?
My critique has always been of him as a fighter? Not a an instructor. Or even a martial artist (not all martial artists are fighters).
So stick to the topic. He didn't "invent" JKD. JKD was a philosophy. Jun Fan was what he called his art. His original art was Wing Chun. He knew about Three different styles in the beginning (under Yip Man). JKD is what was sold as his "art" but he meant it more as a philosophy not an "art".
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