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    #21
    Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
    Those three will make him look good, no question, but that wasn't what I was looking at. Physically, he is better. Technically, he is better. However, a Very Good Boxer will still trouble him and may be able to still disrupt his ability because that is what they do; make you look bad. It's like fighters when they go up against Hopkins: It doesn't matter how good you are, he'll make you look human. Hopkins has been sliding down hill for a long time now and still makes fighters look bad.
    Exactly. if you put Manny in against come forward fighters that aren't named Morales, he will beat them down. However, we saw that spoilers that work off their opponents offense such as Marquez can make him look horrible.

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      #22
      I couldnt see any flaws at all on Pacquiao. If only the fight had lastes longer.

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        #23
        Speed; Agility; Strength; Technical....etc.

        Compare....

        Manny Pacquiao vs. Jorge Eliecer Julio
        Full fight - 06/08/2002




        Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-10-2009, 11:40 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by We want Floyd View Post
          I atttended the PAC-Hatton fight, although he won in grand fashion. I think PAC actually showed some slippage, perhaps he's leaving his prime years.

          Eventhough the scrap w/ Flattened only lasted for two rounds, PAC's speed has slowed down some.
          You saw slippage in Pac-man in a two round destruction of Hatton... Hmm and who gave you sight beyond sight?.. Nostradamus?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
            Speed; Agility; Strength; Technical....etc.

            Compare....

            Manny Pacquiao vs. Jorge Eliecer Julio
            Full fight - 06/08/2002










            Benny, thanks for providing the vids. The difference I saw in the '02 version of PAC vs. the PAC of today , is his movement, he's no longer just a north-south fighter he has also become an east-west mover. Back then, he only had one way of defending, which was blocking, now he moves his head, moves side to side.

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              #26
              then he should slip some more based on the results..

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                #27
                Cotto and Mosley would make Pac look like an asian *******

                really it would look like a boy next to a MAN. Pac is great for a Lightweight, but he should stay away from WW's before he gets hurt..

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by We want Floyd View Post
                  Benny, thanks for providing the vids. The difference I saw in the '02 version of PAC vs. the PAC of today , is his movement, he's no longer just a north-south fighter he has also become an east-west mover. Back then, he only had one way of defending, which was blocking, now he moves his head, moves side to side.
                  I've been looking over his fights and it is incredible to watch the evolution. Its one thing I love about the sport; you can watch young fighters progress.

                  Manny, with Team Pacquaio behind him deserve credit.

                  Let's just say you never heard of Manny.
                  If I were to post up those two videos of Manny being Knocked out...where would you think he would be today?

                  Could you look at Manny that has been fighting in the past two years and say that was the same person?

                  The Odds of him getting to where he is now from then is incredible. It's the Strong Mentality that gets my respect at the end of the day.

                  I've said this before many times: Everybody, and will stick with fighters, are given different levels of test to overcome...and Manny's was a hard test to pass. That's why I judge things by a case by case basis.
                  However, there are things that did enable him to be stronger mentaly than say someone that was pampered...but he still took it and pushed ahead.
                  For example: Poor people are hungry; hungrier than someone that grows up in a better place...that's an advantage to the poor person.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
                    Speed; Agility; Strength; Technical....etc.

                    Compare....

                    Manny Pacquiao vs. Jorge Eliecer Julio
                    Full fight - 06/08/2002




                    NICE VIDS!!! thanks for the upload, another noticeable improvement for pac throughout the years are his hooks, i didnt notice him using the hook in his earlier days, he almost always use the left straight during his younger days. now his hook is very sharp, one of the deadliest hooks ive ever seen

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by We want Floyd View Post
                      I atttended the PAC-Hatton fight, although he won in grand fashion. I think PAC actually showed some slippage, perhaps he's leaving his prime years.

                      Eventhough the scrap w/ Flattened only lasted for two rounds, PAC's speed has slowed down some.
                      kidding me, he look better than ever

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