Mosley Tips Pacquiao To Beat Hatton, Wants Winner

[mrosborne]

Fighting at 154 pounds is something that Cotto hasnt done....

The Oscar fight was a risk.....

I disagree here. Oscar was always a small Light Middle/Middleweight, and was consistently outsized by the people he fought at these divisions. Mayweather saw a fighter on the downslide and took the fight at 154 knowing Oscar was past his prime. The way he fought him if anything proves that. He wasn't aggressive whatsoever until the last 15 seconds of the fight when he stood still to give the fans a show and avoid unneccesary criticism of him for not fighting toe to toe enough. This is why the fight was roundly derided and labeled not living up to the billing. Oscar to his credit was winning that fight on the jab alone, and stop using it, so some blames rests on him as well for it, but clearly Mayweather could have done more in that particular fight. Mayweather and risk aren't things that go together like peas and carrots. Sorry to reference Forrest Gump there.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I disagree here. Oscar was always a small Light Middle/Middleweight, and was consistently outsized by the people he fought at these divisions. Mayweather saw a fighter on the downslide and took the fight at 154 knowing Oscar was past his prime. The way he fought him if anything proves that. He wasn't aggressive whatsoever until the last 15 seconds of the fight when he stood still to give the fans a show and avoid unneccesary criticism of him for not fighting toe to toe enough. This is why the fight was roundly derided and labeled not living up to the billing. Oscar to his credit was winning that fight on the jab alone, and stop using it, so some blames rests on him as well for it, but clearly Mayweather could have done more in that particular fight. Mayweather and risk aren't things that go together like peas and carrots. Sorry to reference Forrest Gump there.

Co sigN!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Burner]

Co sigN!!!!!!!!!!!!

So Floyd moving up to 154 pounds and fighting Oscar was risk free???...with a small ring...small gloves...no 154 pound tune up?...just risk free huh?...and Oscar put up a fight.

God stop being a **** poster man..your better then this.......

[mrosborne]

Lets rank the WW's on power>>>>

1. Cintron
2. Cotto
3. Mosley
4. Williams
5. Clottey
6. Judah
7. Quitana
8. Berto
9. Matthyiase
10. Mayweather
11. Collazo


Get it now.


Mosley hits WAY harder then Floyd..thats not even arguabe his KO win over Marg proves that alone.

So with that said why is it okay for a guy with that kind of power to fight the little JMM and Pac but a guy WHO DOESNT HIT THAT HARD in mayweather is criticzied.

I'm revising your list a bit for accuracy.

1. Mosley(yes, Sugar Shane hits the hardest, he's knocked out far larger guys consistently such as an admittedly past it Vargas and Mayorga, larger by far of anyone else though by KO)

2. Cotto on body punching power alone earns this spot.

3. Paul Williams hits harder than Cintron, again as he has knocked out guys in 154 and 160, unlike others on this list, but he relies on volume more than pure one punch power.

4. Cintron. Yeah he hits hard, but his style is terrible and ineffective lately.

5. Judah has power but again has been terrible lately.

6. Berto. Berto I would say has better than average power and a GREAT uppercut.

7. Collazo. Again, better than average but not as good as Berto as he couldn't finish him.

8. Clottey. Clottey isn't a one punch puncher, instead he wears people down ala Margarito but more defensive.

9. Mayweather. Mayweather hasn't shown power at WW. However he does punch with precision as Ricky Hatton has stated, not the hardest puncher but very precise and deliberate.

10. Quintana. He is decent but he relies on being awkward more than power.

[GRUSTLER]

The Oscar that FLoyd fought Cotto TKOs him, dont get me started with that!!!!!!!!!

I don't know man, Cotto is not accustomed to pressure and
De La Hoya at his natural weight was walking down the smaller
Floyd so Floyd had to fight defensively to neutralize him because
obviously Oscar was bigger and stronger. De La Hoya had his
pressure game on and we all witnessed watching the Mosley/Cotto
fight and Margarito/Cotto that pressure is the way to throw
Cotto off of his game because he does not fight good going backwards.
Plus Cotto is used to being the hunter not the hunted. Not saying
he would have won or loss but I'm sure it would not have been easy
for Cotto at 154. De La Hoya knocked out a much bigger Mayorga
and Vargas, Cotto doesn't have the defense or speed to avoid Oscar
like Floyd did. That's just my unbias boxing opinion.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

So Floyd moving up to 154 pounds and fighting Oscar was risk free???...with a small ring...small gloves...no 154 pound tune up?...just risk free huh?...and Oscar put up a fight.

God stop being a **** poster man..your better then this.......

Fighting Oscar at 154 was as risk free as fighting Henry Bruseless.

That **** wasnt a risk. A isk was fighting Corales, a risk was getting a close desicion with a fighter and inmediately giving him a rematch.

Fighting a ass prime olde fighter is not taking a risk,m even if you moved up 1 weight class to fight him.

Cotto would of TKOd that version of Oscar

[Burner]

I'm revising your list a bit for accuracy.

1. Mosley(yes, Sugar Shane hits the hardest, he's knocked out far larger guys consistently such as an admittedly past it Vargas and Mayorga, larger by far of anyone else though by KO)

2. Cotto on body punching power alone earns this spot.

3. Paul Williams hits harder than Cintron, again as he has knocked out guys in 154 and 160, unlike others on this list, but he relies on volume more than pure one punch power.

4. Cintron. Yeah he hits hard, but his style is terrible and ineffective lately.

5. Judah has power but again has been terrible lately.

6. Berto. Berto I would say has better than average power and a GREAT uppercut.

7. Collazo. Again, better than average but not as good as Berto as he couldn't finish him.

8. Clottey. Clottey isn't a one punch puncher, instead he wears people down ala Margarito but more defensive.

9. Mayweather. Mayweather hasn't shown power at WW. However he does punch with precision as Ricky Hatton has stated, not the hardest puncher but very precise and deliberate.

10. Quintana. He is decent but he relies on being awkward more than power.

Not a bad list but Walter Mythiasse hits harder then Collazo..other then that t looks good....

But agin the HARDEST hitting WW wants to fight the Pac-Hatton winer and its okay???

But one of the LIGHTEST hitting WW's gets criticized?

HYPOCRISY at its finest.

[-X-]

So Floyd moving up to 154 pounds and fighting Oscar was risk free???...with a small ring...small gloves...no 154 pound tune up?...just risk free huh?...and Oscar put up a fight.

God stop being a **** poster man..your better then this.......

**** poster?? what do you offer the forum other than Mayweather garbage lmao come on man.

[Vasyl’s dad]

For the person who requested my presence in this thread, The Don.


Personally, I don't agree with him wanting this fight at all. Does nothing for the division and Mosley would most likely wipe the **** out of either guy.

But, I'll take a Mayweather stanley approach just for kicks,

"its for the money and he has to do whats best for himself".

So, why is The Don against this again? If its ok for Floyd, why isn't it ok for anyone else by your standard?

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I don't know man, Cotto is not accustomed to pressure and
De La Hoya at his natural weight was walking down the smaller
Floyd so Floyd had to fight defensively to neutralize him because
obviously Oscar was bigger and stronger. De La Hoya had his
pressure game on and we all witnessed watching the Mosley/Cotto
fight and Margarito/Cotto that pressure is the way to throw
Cotto off of his game because he does not fight good going backwards.
Plus Cotto is used to being the hunter not the hunted. Not saying
he would have won or loss but I'm sure it would not have been easy
for Cotto at 154. De La Hoya knocked out a much bigger Mayorga
and Vargas, Cotto doesn't have the defense or speed to avoid Oscar
like Floyd did. That's just my unbias boxing opinion.

His defense is not that good, but he have enough offense to put Oscar on his defense.

Cotto would off hited Oscar to much to the body as well. And Cotto is much stronger than FLoyd, so he woulnt had to be backing off all the time. He could of put the presure on Oscar too. And Cottos timming is top in the spot right know. And his hand speed is decent, no near FLoyds tho.