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    #31
    Pac already ranks higher All time even without the Hatton win IMO.

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      #32
      pacs already better

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        #33
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
        how has he done more?

        because he's undefeated? that's about it.
        5 division in a 9 years undefeated..
        most of pacman's resume were past prime fighters or not clear cut victories.

        not to hate either

        in my opinon, pac's best victories are against barrera the 1st fight, and the marquez fights.. and i along with many others thought marquez won both those fights against pacman.. how does pac get credit for beating zombie de la hoya and pbf doesnt when they were at a higher weight and pbf had to concede to everything? its hatred.. pac gets credit for beating a faded morales and barerra (2nd fight) and has life and death matches with marquez, beats a zombie, and a contender in diaz and all the sudden he shoots pass mayweather for atg great rankings?? nah sorry i cant go with that

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          #34
          Originally posted by Kevin Jesus View Post
          Mayweather/Pacquiao won't happen because of Arum. Bob already said If the fight gets made, Pacman get the lion's share (65-35 or 60-40) 50-50 is fair.
          50-50? are U crazy? The P4P champ should get the bigger piece of the pie not the Retire guy!!!

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            #35
            I can't wait for this fight to happen. I would imagine this will be the only fight that Floyd will do a catch weight.

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              #36
              Originally posted by C.Y. View Post
              5 division in a 9 years undefeated..
              most of pacman's resume were past prime fighters or not clear cut victories.

              not to hate either

              in my opinon, pac's best victories are against barrera the 1st fight, and the marquez fights.. and i along with many others thought marquez won both those fights against pacman.. how does pac get credit for beating zombie de la hoya and pbf doesnt when they were at a higher weight and pbf had to concede to everything? its hatred.. pac gets credit for beating a faded morales and barerra (2nd fight) and has life and death matches with marquez, beats a zombie, and a contender in diaz and all the sudden he shoots pass mayweather for atg great rankings?? nah sorry i cant go with that

              But floyd missed a lot of names. too many, and that's what hurts his legacy. Manny has fought the better competition. Floyd especially in the higher weight classes has missed quite a few opponents that fans want to see. how many can you name that manny's missed?
              Also Manny has 5 world titles in 5 weight classes. more lineal championships & an overall better body of work than floyd in their respetive weight classes.

              Not to say Manny would beat floyd cuz i think floyd would win an easy UD, but being the greater fighter isn't all about talent or ability. it's about in ring performance, achievements, dominance & mainstream appeal. Floyds left too many question marks in too many divisions(not to say that they are all his fault, or vice versa) & unfortunately that does hurt him at the end of the day.

              About the credit for each's victory over oscar, floyd was more than a 2-1 fav, oscar was 201 over manny. history shows the story of the underdog hits mainstream appeal. personally i dont give manny too much credit for oscar, he was dead at the weight. but u have to admit you most were shocked when he made de la hoya quit.

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                #37
                Mayweather.

                Pacs last two fights...are guys Floyd already beat I think people forget that.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
                  Maybe that says something to do with Morales's opponent.

                  Pavlik made Hopkins look like a young God and I heard people saying this was the best Hopkins ever; bull****.

                  Pacquiao and Mayweather aren't in the same room of SRR. SRR lost once or twice at his best depending on who you ask. Most seem to put it at one. Besides going undefeated as an amateur which I hear he beat Willie Pep, as a Pro, he lost to MW Jake LaMotta and Randy Turpin. Both losses he avenged. With LaMotta, Ray went from WW to MW. With Turpin, it was on his European tour when he was fighting many fights in such a close range that he was more than likely to lose.

                  Pac was knocked out twice.
                  yeah, pretty much all rays 19 losses came after age 35 or 36 im pretty sure

                  in fact if he retired permanently after losing to maxim he would have only had 3 losses out of like 150 fights at that point

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by sandyvahra View Post
                    So if Pacman defeats Hitman May 2nd, up to that point who has had the better career & who would you rank higher all time?

                    Personally, I would have to vote Pacman based on body of work, quality of opposition, and more lineal titles at the various weight classes.
                    i love both guys but i think pacs resume beats floyds resume.. but skillwise floyd is better ofcourse.. its just pac fought better oppositions IMO..

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                      #40
                      Pacquiao definatly. Based off pretty much what everyone else has brought up. Although I'd still have to compare Pacquiao's W and Floyd's W. If Pacquiao wins a close decision it would bring him down a bit in comparison than if he got the KO. It would still be impressive and I'd put Pacquiao ahead but not by as much.

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